EVE General Discussion

2 or 3 turns out to have been a little low, I average 5.5 posts a day according to Eve Search; hardly an excessive amount.

As for being a neurotic no life loser with no friends? Wrong on all counts.

On seconds thoughts, deleted.

One shouldn't feed trolls.

You flew a badger through null? Ballsy.

You sound butthurt, are you ok, did you die and quit the game because you lost some mission loot now you roll a forum alt to tell everyone how bad the game is, its funny you insult others for posting on the forums yet here you are with what looks like a forum alt. Why dont you just crawl back under your rock and go play something more "skillful"

Cant see anyone honoring ransoms, or anything else for that part.
For the thrill^^ But your observation is right, a LOT of players started thinking this way and the game did get pretty stale. highsec is overpopulated like hell as a result, while everyone in lowsec is a wannabe pirate king.

LS is the missing link, and the link which is most significant to restricting material transit between HS and NS, in both directions.

If it had been up to me, I would have made LS sectors far larger as a buffer between HS/NS.

Since it is unlikely CCP will restructure the expanse of LS, I endorse increasing LS potential to intercept/disrupt material moving between HS/NS instead.

Your real life morality is the result of societal norms in the real world; Eve is not the real world, nor does it have the same societal norms as the real world, in Eve death is just an inconvenience, honesty and trust are a rare and thus valued currency; the only man in New Eden that you can trust implicitly being Chribba.

That said, I would hazard a guess that much of what goes on in Eve has direct equivalents in what goes on behind closed doors in politics and business. Power and money are dangerous things, they attract the worst, and corrupt the best.

Firstly, people have been quitting Eve since beta, multitudes more have quit than have stayed, such are the trials and tribulations of making a niche game, that by design appeals to a select group.

Secondly, I've underlined your main problem with Eve, it's not a game that is easily played solo.

It's certainly possible to play much of Eve solo, I've been doing so for years and so do others, some of us do it because it's a challenge not because we don't want to play with, or be affected by the actions of, other people; other people being very important in making the the solo lifestyle a challenge. Others do it because they believe that they can lead an insular single player life in Eve, which is nigh on impossible.


Your proposal suggests that any and all alts of a player are linked with the information being public, that is free information; the act of then finding someone is reliant on that information. If you currently want information on what alts a player has you have to put some effort into obtaining that information, you appear to have a problem with making that effort.

We used to be able put you back to square one, no skills beyond those you could fit in a med clone, no assets, no nothing, alas no more.

Losing in Eve happens everyday, the evidence is in every thread that attacks the very nature of the game, that nature being one of an ecosystem where you are either predator or prey, often both at the same time with there always being bigger predators consuming other predators and prey alike.

If you fall into the prey category, without also being a predator, you still have choices.

You can choose to be wily and cunning prey that is hard to catch unawares, adapting your gameplay to the game; doing so requires knowledge of game mechanics, how they will be used against you, how you can use them against others and the investment of effort in employing that knowledge to your advantage, much of that knowledge has been freely given in this thread.

You can also choose to be hapless prey, ignoring the wealth of information that is available to you, ignoring the knowledge shared by those in the know despite frequent attacks on them for playing by the rules, use autopilot, blindly sail into gatecamps, and whine on the forums about your woes demanding the game be changed to suit you.

One type of prey is worthy of respect, the other derision. Which are you?


Not addressed at me but I'll point out that the control of choke points is good strategy, both militarily and economically; gate camps being generally at a choke point into low sec, suicide ganks happening at choke points between tradehubs.

A real world example of a choke point would be the Strait of Hormuz, with both Iran and the US vying for control. If Iran ever "camps" the straits, 30%+ of the worlds oil supply has to find another route.

I did indeed try it during my first go-round with EVE in 2005-2006. I got tired of getting attacked and blown up on my way down to 0.0, and then when I finally got to where my corp was, I got tired of having to run every time some maxed-out enemies came to our system, which was often. It was not fun for me and I'm not eager to try it again. These days, as a returning player, I'm enjoying myself just fine in high-sec.

To me, the "reward" of 0.0 space was not worth the risk. I experience enough stress in real life--I don't need more of it in a game.

But for those who enjoy the community and excitement and wealth of 0.0 space, more power to you.

Eve is a tough game as I said earlier.

If you need to go a certain direction and you use your scout to have a look and it is camped, then cloak up or dock your main....Have a cuppa or go for a jog and gather your thoughts.

Play another game for a few hours or watch a film or episode. we have got to stop feeding the gankers and then quitting cos it means they win.

And I'm fine with the current multiboxing restrictions on Alphas.