EVE General Discussion

if you are multi-boxing sure. but you are also putting 6b in assets out in space to do it. if you have the money then fine, but not everyone does. for a solo pilot yeah it might be the best method currently, you are also putting much more isk on the line though.
and if you have a fleet of pilots you can get comparable or even better yields, while putting less isk at risk.

the question was "whats the point of barges" and so I was putting that forward as an example of one of many roles in which barges could be better. different tools for different jobs.

I'm not saying it does or does not need balancing, but to have a 3bil ship with 8bil in drones to make 386m/hr seems not too far out of the ball park compared to other activities like super ratting, carrier ratting, incursions, or burner missions. It also doesn't account for the rarity of finding different ores or transporting the ore.

It will for sure put downward pressure on the mineral markets, however that is a somewhat self correcting cycle as ore values normalize and mining income goes down which may cause miners to mine less.

Inflation is an increase in prices, this is deflation, and most of eve has been in some sort of deflation for as long as I've been playing. The biggest thing to shake up prices that I can think of was ship tiericide as suddenly most ships cost more to build. And then there have been some moon mining changes over time. Check out the price indices, http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/MER/Jan_2017/9d_economy.indices.png The CPI last hit 100 right around 2007 when I started playing and is currently somewhere in the 50s. The devblog has a 3 year graph too, which shows a ~10% drop over the last 3 years.

Things like bounty prizes and incursion payouts are isk faucets and can lead to inflation, however it seems we produce far too much to have any chance at creating inflation.

Lastly we have had years to min/max pretty much everything, asset/hr income is probably the highest it has ever been. As many players have better incomes and there has been a ton of RL economic shenanigans things like PLEX prices have gone up. Also as the playerbase matures I think we have more in assets so the desire to buy plex for rl cash goes down. Buying a plex is a great boost for a newer player to give them a ton of isk for cheap pvp ships, but for me buying plex to pay for caps/supers just seems silly. The Main things that seem to have increasing prices are the unique items, like t2 bpos, AT ships, which are both for the main part collector's items.

750m/hr?

Show your working.

Sure there is still some risk involved, even in Delve. That was the "relatively" part. My point was more that semi-save Roqual use does not come without effort. You can/should only use them under certain circumstances and of course you are never totally save.

The balance is that Rorquals can be killed now instead of sitting behind a POS shield boosting. The killboards regularly show Rorqual kills. You're just complaining because now you need more than two people to kill one. What do you expect - it's a capital ship. Bring support.

Imo, the Rorqs defense stats are fine.

But the yield stats are too high.

Resource harvesting ships underlie the entire economy of EVE.
This is different than a combat ship being "OP".
Rorqs are specific to space that already is lucrative, and in many instances, very safe.

3-6 months from now may be too late.

Wouldn't an oversupply lead to deflation? Prices going down for minerals, and all the things that minerals are used to build? And income going down for new miners to the point they give up on the game before they get hooked?

More Rorquals = more materials = cheaper ships = more likely to be willing to lose ships = finally the game doesnt suck...

Ok. So gun-mining also contributes materials. And isk faucets/sinks regulate available isk.

The odd-one out is unbuildable modules.

My point was that the stats of resource harvesting ships are significant to the economy, more so than other ship types.