Crime & Punishment

There are many Ganker corps out there extorting money from Miners, for Mining in the Area, wherever that may be.

They want Miners to "Buy" a " Permit" from them, which is NO guarantee that you will not be attacked.

These People should be stopped from extorting ISK from people to Mine.

Mining is a part of the game and does not need to be placed under a bounty situation for those whom do not want to fight or pay for mining.

Mining is free apart from buying the ships to mine with.

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Last I checked, EVE is a pvp game which can encompass being ganked, scammed, ransomed and even taking steps to make oneself an unappealing target while mining.

Oh as for "mining is free", heard of opportunity costs?

Thats just part of the game! And a part that makes this game as good as it is. I like the idea that youre not sade anywhere. It makes you think what to fly and how to fit it!

Because occasionally you get a fun one

Nodoby is stopping you from either wardeccing them or joining people who wardec them.
Thats your choices tbh...

Uh, I have bad news for you: This is only one of the "lesser evils" of EVE. Most alliances don’t just extort some ISK from others, they right out destroy anyone they are not allied with whenever there happens to be an opportunity to do so. Sometimes because they want your space, business or mining grounds, sometimes just for fun and to see things explode. Spying, betrayal, awoxing, backstabbing longtime allies and corporation theft are quite common too, this is EVE.
Maybe they should be stopped, maybe not.. but don’t hope CCP will do anything about it. If you want anyone to be stopped in EVE you have to find likeminded players and do the stopping yourself.
If you are not trolling you may have no idea how often this comes up on the forums. And you are right; mining does not NEED to be dangerous at all. But CCP made it dangerous by design and not by accident, so it is safe to assume that mining is not meant to be completely risk free. In EVE everything is at risk: Risk of being blown up, risk of being undercut by competitors and in risk of being extorted for some ISK. But you can minimize your risk in highsec by flying the right fits, some situational awareness and a good corp. CODE.and co only go for the most obvious targets around, you are save just by not being among the least clever miners.

Yeah this is a pretty bad one.

I recently had the opportunity to log back into the game, and actually chat with CODE, and all things being equal they seem like some pretty cool people to talk to. Which makes it all the more sad that they keep posting crap like this. You guys are better than these fake troll accounts, and same stories every day.

See above

Having recalibrate my jaw at Bing's revelation to the court, allow me to share some CODE neutral observations. I'm not CODE and I actually enjoy trying to catch them when they turn red (but I shoot at just about anything that turns red or yellow).

I think I did the math once and figured out that a miner can pull about 200kisk of veldspar in a minute in a covetor.


Therefore, the 10mil license equates to about 50 minutes of lost mining time... which without even considering ship values would be lost in the opening day of a war very rapidly and easily. For that to be a year long license... I'd do it.

If I ran a mining corp, I would absolutely be CODE compliant. It's cheap insurance.



I would apply the same logic to extortionists, but I would negotiate for "protection" in the extortion payment. Both sides win and it keeps extortionists from having buddies war dec you for cash or war dec you again for cash.

If mining is your thing, you will interact with the pvp crowd. It is better to choose how and do so in a controlled fashion, IMO.
Mo

There is no such thing as "gank insurance". I feel you probably know that.