EVE New Citizens Q&A

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There is no logi that has EVER fit all 3 types. That's mixing tanks and is bad, except this time in a way that screws everyone you know. If your logi doesn't understand tanking, THEY SHOULDN'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WHOLE FLEET'S TANK. If I caught a logi doing it, I'd set them kos. And on top of that, hull reps are a tricky business. There are some niche things for it but again, if I caught a logi trying to hull rep outside a novelty fleet comp, I'd set them kos because their stupidity would be a danger to themselves and everyone around them.

Much of the other details while true is pretty much useless information. For example, the shield bleed through. It doesn't affect how you fit or tactics. It's not information used to decide what ship you fly or how to tank. There's a skill that reduces it, but if you're going to train that skill, you're gonna do it for what it unlocks not because of a nearly useless bonus.

Maxim 35 (modified): [Rookie advice] and friendly fire should be easier to tell apart.

One thing with the shield vs armor conundrum is the balancing act of increasing the amount of dps (low slots) vs tackle (mids).

With PVE the npc's aren't going to be running anywhere (bar one exception I can think of) which necessitates the need for tackle mods, so a lot of people will go with ships that favour shield tanks in order to increase the raw dps that can be put out.

For PvP, it's a question of looking at the slot layout of a ship and deciding which layout would be more viable. Take for example a t1 frigate, the Punisher; it has a meagre 2 midslots both of which are needed for 2 (in my eyes) essentials of pvp, a prop mod and a tackle mod. On the other hand it has 5 low slots, meaning you can fit a very hefty tank for a frigate. In a case like this, you'll almost always want to go with an armor tank.

Most of the frigates and destroyers in this game are forced into one type of tank or the other due to their slot limitations, but as you get into bigger ships there is a greater degree of flexibility. The Thorax is a cruiser with 4 mids and 5 lows, so at first glance it might be sensible to go with an armor tank... and indeed, plated or active rep thorax's can do a solid job, seeing as they can use the mid slots to fit additional tackle/cap injector's e.t.c. However, a thorax with 2 shield extenders can use those numerous low slots to increase it's dps by a bucket load at the cost of a stasis webifier/cap injector. The consequences of this choice is that you can either overwhelm someone by breaking through their buffer first (or before they can cycle their reps), but on the other hand it can hurt if the other ship has a neut or has active reps and can tank the dps... in which case, they'll slowly whittle you down.

As you'll find with experience, every engagement is a game of rock-paper-scissors. You might stomp someone only to get crushed the very next day by the same ship, simply because the fitting was tweaked to counteract it.

Hull repping logi? Brilliant! Why didn't I think of that.

Oh wait.

both armor and shields are good, they both have pros and cons:

assuming a ship with equal mid and lower slots, armor tanked will have lower dps and will be slower but will have more ewar and will have better damage applications; on the other hand, shield tanked will have higher dps and will be faster but will have lower tracking/damage application and will have higher sig radius.

so your training will be according to your preference and to your corps' doctrine.

if i fly solo, most of the time i hull tank, you just need DC for the resist and bulkheads for buffer. all other slots can be dedicated to ewar, damage mods, application mods, and caps. the downside to this is there's no active tank or should i say bad, your resist will be around 60% only (but omni), and reduced cargo (but i find this insignificant)

and one more thing, shield doesn't have a mod equivalent to the EANMs of armor, so i guess that's a pro for armors too. :)