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927 Combat Roam, Ships & Ordnance Supplied!

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Matar Ronin
#601 - 2017-01-12 00:27:20 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Damn, I spend a couple of hours reading a softcore porn/romance back to back and you guys fill entire pages about a hypothetical fleet of drifter equipped guerilla fighters in Empire space. I can't tell which of us spent their time poorly.

The long and short of it is that you're both somewhat right and almost completely wrong. You both started at an adversarial position and then just bloody dug in further with every post. When you both start cherry picking the adversary's posts for the bits you can argue against the hardest while ignoring the reasonable parts, you've both now ended up so far away from reasonable standpoints that you can't even sodding see them from where you are.

Untangling the useful and good bits from either, not to mention both of your posts would be a herculean task that'd keep me here the entire night, so let's just do a quick and dirty summary here:

Arrendis, stop being a querulous **** trying to score cheap points by batting at low hanging fruit with far too much text. You are - or at least have the potential of being - better than that and you know it. You don't need to have the last word and you don't have to exacerbate the argument by encouraging the worst in others with bait, and needless taunts. This is the kind of 'u mad bro' thing people find so annoying with the Goons' outward image, only written in a way that makes the word smug feel a bit tame. There are far better targets for that than him. Your arguments hold their own on their own merit, there is no need to make them less convincing through :smug: and condescension.

Ronin, take it down a few notches. You bit very hard on bait that was barely intentional and then doubled down on every post afterwards. This argument over the last two pages lasted at least five pages longer than it should have, being based on a rather silly hypothetical in the first place. You're not conforming to the standards you ask your opponent to abide by, and you're disregarding very sound arguments and instead focusing solely on the parts you can argue against yourself. Something you're also accusing her of doing - correctly I might add, but glass houses etc - as well. I would also be a bit less eager to ascribe the other person quite as many qualities when you barely know the other. That last one goes for the both of you.

The argument itself is silly, and you both take a ridiculous extreme stance on it. Yes, if we got ahold of Drifter tech I can assure you some Matari guerilla warfare, hit and run tactics and clever traps would take a relatively heavy toll on the Empire. We've already kicked their teeth in a few times, once stopped only because of - what seems to have been - a superweapon of some sort that rivaled or surpassed the Keepstar "Doomsday" weapon. It would not defeat the Empire, as nothing short of a full invasion by at least two of New Eden's nations could possibly do enough damage and hold the field. It might be enough to get them to talk terms, however. Might. Possibly. Maybe. All these ships might also turn into a few lightseconds long smears in space because people have figured out the weaknesses of these ships while flown by Drifters already and the Empire laughs condescendingly at the silly tribal heathens playing with alien toys.

So with that out of the way, how about you two stop making enemies out of each other over something this bloody childish? You're both making yourselves look a damn sight worse than I know both of you are, to the point where I'm starting to doubt my own judgment on the matter. In fact, I'm going to go ahead and say you're both actually this daft. Now prove me wrong, damn it. Spirits blind me, yes I'm asking you to kiss and make up. Preferably as an analogy but sod it, you guys do you, however you take that.

Oh and before the inevitable 'no u' posts: I am well aware I possess many of the bad habits and qualities I just called out. That's one of the reasons I recognize them.

Spirits below, if a tenth of this effort went towards the enemy of our people the Empire would have been a smoking ruin by now.
Can not argue with a lot of what you said here. I like crossing verbal swords with Arrendis she is quite good when she stays on point. When she purposely wanders into the absurd I admit it pisses me off because instead of proving points she tries scoring points. I readily admit once the hook is in your cheek your remaining options are limited to pulling the fisherman off the boat or ending up a filet.

Nonetheless I think people who followed might have seen a new point or two that would give them food for thought.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#602 - 2017-01-12 00:40:29 UTC
Close enough, now ki... okay no. Just don't post at each other for a while.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#603 - 2017-01-12 00:42:34 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Close enough, now ki... okay no.


You know that never works. But at least he's stopped trying to give me his meat. That contract of long-limbed roe was just weird.
Matar Ronin
#604 - 2017-01-12 00:46:30 UTC
R O "S" E, chivalry is not dead. lol

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#605 - 2017-01-12 01:04:25 UTC
ROES! IT WAS DEER!! FROZEN DEER! I mean, we're talkin' Nauplius-levels of creepy.
Matar Ronin
#606 - 2017-01-12 01:10:41 UTC
I wonder if having the last word is so important?
Let's test and see.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#607 - 2017-01-12 01:12:17 UTC
Oh for...
Matar Ronin
#608 - 2017-01-12 02:41:46 UTC
This thread has surged past 13k views!

Thank you to all the active participants it remains one of the most viewed threads on IGS because of you.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Ria NieyIi
#609 - 2017-01-12 02:43:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Ria NieyIi
Words have a life of their own. Sometimes, you just can't stop, as evidenced by this very thread.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#610 - 2017-01-12 02:47:56 UTC
Last "word"
morion
Lighting Build
#611 - 2017-01-12 07:42:45 UTC  |  Edited by: morion
sweet 16 YC122-YC123 123 123
be home by 7
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Matar Ronin
#612 - 2017-01-12 10:03:26 UTC
It is amazing the hoops some people will jump through to avoid admitting a single letter mistake. Typos happen but the deep rooted inability to acknowledge a mistake is quite stunning. I will have to look it up and find out what the exact medical term is for that specific psychological disorder.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#613 - 2017-01-12 15:17:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Claudia Osyn
Matar Ronin wrote:
It is amazing the hoops some people will jump through to avoid admitting a single letter mistake. Typos happen but the deep rooted inability to acknowledge a mistake is quite stunning. I will have to look it up and find out what the exact medical term is for that specific psychological disorder.

I believe that it's known as "trolling"...


Either that or someone is a stickler for proper grammar.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Maria Daphiti
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#614 - 2017-01-12 16:53:38 UTC
Matar Ronin wrote:
I wonder if having the last word is so important?
Let's test and see.


Always!
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#615 - 2017-01-12 21:40:34 UTC
Maria Daphiti wrote:
Matar Ronin wrote:
I wonder if having the last word is so important?
Let's test and see.


Always!

Never!

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

Matar Ronin
#616 - 2017-01-13 01:11:24 UTC
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Maria Daphiti wrote:
Matar Ronin wrote:
I wonder if having the last word is so important?
Let's test and see.


Always!

Never!
Thanks to you both for making me smile!

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Ria NieyIi
#617 - 2017-01-13 05:11:30 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Matar Ronin wrote:
It is amazing the hoops some people will jump through to avoid admitting a single letter mistake. Typos happen but the deep rooted inability to acknowledge a mistake is quite stunning. I will have to look it up and find out what the exact medical term is for that specific psychological disorder.

I believe that it's known as "trolling"...


Either that or someone is a stickler for proper grammar.


Proper grammar and spelling are cruicial building blocks of modern society.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#618 - 2017-01-13 05:46:08 UTC
Ria NieyIi wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Matar Ronin wrote:
It is amazing the hoops some people will jump through to avoid admitting a single letter mistake. Typos happen but the deep rooted inability to acknowledge a mistake is quite stunning. I will have to look it up and find out what the exact medical term is for that specific psychological disorder.

I believe that it's known as "trolling"...


Either that or someone is a stickler for proper grammar.


Proper grammar and spelling are cruicial building blocks of modern society.


Darn Grammar Provists can't even spell 'crucial' right!

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Window Licker McTard
Doomheim
#619 - 2017-01-13 05:54:21 UTC
hey! can I come on your combat roam??? my buds left me at station. againSad

I'm a special elite ganker, Codes finest warrior bard druid. I gank as much as possible cause I'm good. Don't mess with me minor, i'll mess with you harder. I have no honor. Dommy and Sasha are my wingmen and have my backside.

Matar Ronin
#620 - 2017-01-13 06:37:35 UTC
Oh my.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.