EVE New Citizens Q&A

Combat is LOADS more complicated than mining. If you could use a barge would you ever sub? I doubt it for the extra few % the better lasers will get you..

It's not like there are 10 different "kinds" of mining someone might want to have a go at, like there is with combat. A combat orientated char might want to do missions, PvP, exploration, incursions or sleeper sites to name a few, all of which require different styles of fitting and different hulls. Mining is literally just pointing a mining beam at a rock and waiting, ergo you can experience the vast majority of it from a venture.

If you want to make money from mining as an Alpha take your Venture to a wormhole, it is not as bad as you think it is ;)

Of course I would sub if I see potential in mining & industry.
But you clearly don't see the point I am trying to make.
Now it's just annoying since doing missions give 10x profit plus standing.
Plus the venture is full within a few minutes.
And yeah combat pilots have more options but that just shows that its more fun to play as a combat pilot instead of trying to get more people to mine and go into the industry path of the game.
Like I said you only have a venture and most industrial and trade skills are locked out.
New players can even explores these things to a medium level.
Where combat pilots can do a shitload like you mentioned plus have a lot of combat related skills.

Basically an Alpha Clone looks like its made for 80% combat players and 20% industry (if not less...) players.

L3's are pretty easy in a fully outfitted Gnosis with T1's

Mining in a venture is the exact same thing as mining in a barge: you sit next to a rock and watch the lasers fill up your ore hold.

The numbers you will be seeing with a barge are slightly higher but not to the point where you would get rich from it.
Mining is one of the lowest paying "jobs" in Eve.

The restrictions regarding combat with alpha accounts are also pretty severe. Mining isn't really any more limited than combat - it's just that combat in Eve is a lot deeper (and better paying) than mining.

People mine for profit because it is an activity that requires little to no interaction and thus can easily be scaled up to multiple accounts - which requires omega anyway.


The manufacturing side is severely restricted to prevent people from abusing the system by making hundreds of accounts for manufacturing. It's passive ISK and thus could be easily scaled up without having to login multiple accounts at once. Alphas can't do planetary interaction for the same reason.

where do you get this SP can bs? alphas can freely train within the skillset available to alphas. that is it.

Eve is not free to play. Eve is free to try.

Alphas can't log in simultaneously not because of threat of permaban, they can't log in simultaneously because the client won't let them.

Mining initially provides significantly better income than missioning. You'll definitely make more isk in your venture than you'll make doing level 1 or two missions, just as an example. Using the gnosis to do level 3s, that's a little more in the air, but from what I've experienced so far, especially mixing it up with some production, a miner should be making pretty good income.

Definitely enough income to pay for the frigates, destroyers, and cruisers to fly pvp in.

I thought they were limited to cruiser hulls and below. A gnosis is a bc.

Yeah it's because the Gnosis is really designed to help out new players, with it's 4-way fitting bonus etc.

If you want higher yields, then you should consider doing something else, than highsec mining with the Venture.

Maybe you should look into ninja gas huffing.

But as people have already stated, giving free access to barges would crash the mineral market and not give an incentive for highsec miners to ever sub.