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EVE Online: Ascension - General feedback (PC)

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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#321 - 2016-11-16 03:18:22 UTC
Jones Beach wrote:
Its not rocket science - just common sense.


You are in the wrong place for that. CCP will ignore the complaints for several days, then ask you to get used to not being able to read the skill window, and having no idea how many SP are invested in a skill. Not to mention the busy and jumbled presentation.

Then, in 3 months time when there are only a couple of people still complaining about it, they will say that apart from these 2 guys everyone else loves not being able to read their skill page, and having less information than they used to have.

CCP are a joke.

Its always the little things like this, that should be common sense, that makes me the maddest.

Every little papercut, every little change that replaces a working feature with something that looks nice but doesnt do as good a job, and that no one asked for;

The new inventory
The new camera
The new map
The new d-scan
The docking animation etc.

,,,makes me actually glad to know that EVE is dying.

Im beyond telling CCP that their obviously stupid design ideas should be changed. Keep them. Keep the game. I have no faith that there is any competent direction left at CCP.

RIP.
Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#322 - 2016-11-16 03:18:28 UTC
Worked for hours on my pilot picture, now when i open the character sheet i get a generic image?

Before when i opened the character sheet to look at something my crafted picture was there, part of the regular flow of what i was doing when i accessed the character sheet. Now, i have to take another step (clicking my name) i'll not be taking because it doesnt occur naturally as i play the game.

Before: organically while playing game occasionally get to see my enlarged portrait.

Now: Will not see my portrait unless i take a non-nonsensical extra step just to see the image.


Requesting you change the image at the top of the page to the one i made.

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.

GeeBee
Backwater Redux
Tactical Narcotics Team
#323 - 2016-11-16 03:27:24 UTC
+1 New Voice is bad Old Voice is good.

How about giving us access to put our own voicepacks in?

But I had the same request with the icon's and we're stuck with them so we're probably stuck with this uninspired voice pack as well. #MakeCCPGreatAgain
Archelais
Noobsauces
#324 - 2016-11-16 03:28:03 UTC
Wow the new character sheet is horrible... How can I tell how many skill points until my next level? Or how many skill points I have even devoted to that skill? Don't fix something that isn't broke. How many man hours did it take them to redo the character sheet only to **** off everyone. I know its meant to aid new players but I honestly don't see how this is helping anyone.
Admiral Zander
Paragon Industrial Manufacturing Partners
#325 - 2016-11-16 03:30:45 UTC
Can't stand the "WERP Drive Active" sound.

It's "WARP" Not "WERP"!
GeeBee
Backwater Redux
Tactical Narcotics Team
#326 - 2016-11-16 03:39:01 UTC
Admiral Zander wrote:
Can't stand the "WERP Drive Active" sound.

It's "WARP" Not "WERP"!


to me sounds like shes talking through a toilet roll into a tin can.
Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#327 - 2016-11-16 03:55:42 UTC
Don't like character sheet portrait banner = mimimize it
Don't like new Aura voice = Turn sound down...

whats next?

Don't like new UI = disable it?
Don't like new probe scanner = don't use it?
Don't like new mechanics = don't play?

This is a total cop-out.


If the new aura voice is how new players are expected to be introduced into the game, I feel the bad for them. Eve is meant to be ruthless and cold... the new voice is so sprightly and happy.. not in line with the game AT ALL!

If it ain't broke, don't fix it... and if you are going to revamp something... make it BETTER.. .not WORSE.

Annexe

ITAI - VIP

"i will pop your wreck with faction loot"

Linkoman
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#328 - 2016-11-16 03:56:57 UTC
I personally like the voice. I think it has a lot more personality than the old one did.
Inir Ishtori
Perkone
Caldari State
#329 - 2016-11-16 04:15:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Inir Ishtori
My initial impression is mostly negative.

I don't see much change I was hoping would happen some day - ie citadels/outposts becoming interactive on a more deeper and personal level or improvements to PI. There is a suggestion about that somewhere in my posting history.

Alpha clone skill sets are extremely limiting and halving skill training speed just adds insult to the injury. The usual complaint of new players was not being able to get into relevant ships faster and how exclusion from many important skills while also getting the skills twice as slow should help retaining them i really don't know.
At least i am glad to have had a 3 weeks headstart for my alpha character.

Which brings me to the character sheet. It's ****. Terrible. Not once since I started playing in 2006 have I thought CCP went full ******: not when you failed Incarna(you simply don't have the right talent), not when you were discussing gold ammo(you were being really stupid back then, though), not when you messed up the fitting screen(because it still was and is to this day perfectly usable).
But this piece of **** you created is going full ****** at cosmic speeds. It's pretty funny too, because the fitting screen doesn't even show all the apparel the character wears, so people can't see what their character looks like to other players and will probably stop caring at some point, directly cutting into your NEX store profits.

Instead of letting your UI experts messing up perfectly fine interfaces, it would have been a really good idea to force them to create a better drone interface so we can actually have buttons for attack, return, orbit etc.
When I was actually playing the game before, it was in the evenings before sleep, usually relaxing and drinking a cup of tea, and in such a setting being able to comfortably use a mouse for all relevant interactions would have been great.

Playing as an alpha clone I also realized that you most probably won't be getting money nor PLEX from me anymore.
I became quite a carebear after my initial pvp experiences simply due to the fact that earning ISK was and is still boring, so over the years instead of being bored even more sitting somewhere on a gate or flying around for 2 hours for 5 minutes of action I became quite content as a solo player doing 2-3 missions every 3-4 days. And those are pretty much the same from level 1 to level 4.
Everything else is either more fun as an actual Excel sheet(like PI), EFT graph or requires of one to be on the far side of the autist spectrum(scan spam in wormholes), so high sec without fancy ships it is. All completely free with the new shiny and really pretty explosions from what i can tell by looking at the NPC frigates going boom in LvL1's.

TL;DR: everything is meh to awful other than explosions. Those are pretty nice.
artemis Ambraella
10 Hammers Black Ops Division
#330 - 2016-11-16 04:27:52 UTC
Aura's new voice sounds like the voice in an elevator with a crappy speaker.

CCPlease bring back the old Aura's voice. It was richer, fuller, and a calm soothing voice in this mad universe.

I can understand the will to change Aura's voice for something a bit different, but why the potato quality?!?

Also, the "Docking permission requested" line, why is it playing so fast?
Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#331 - 2016-11-16 04:37:02 UTC
In short

-New Voice is terrible, why change something that wasn't broken?

-New Character sheet is terrible and stupidly complicated to use, why change something that wasn't broken?

-New Explosions are nice, but they are so big I feel like my ship should go boom with it every time I see one happen. Maybe they are too big?

-Can't play with my friends tonight because half of them aren't getting their verification mails.

-The good? Ehhh still looking, will let you know if I find something.
Jeven HouseBenyo
Vanity Thy Name Is
#332 - 2016-11-16 04:45:47 UTC
Sterling Paradox wrote:
Jeven HouseBenyo wrote:
Danalyse Sly wrote:
The new skill window is the single most obnoxious addition that has ever graced this client and wins the Yahtzee croshaw "CRT Monitor at the bottom of a well" prize for clarity and readability.


Shocked

I was going to be more polite about the new character/skill window and just call it overly cluttered and counter-intuitive. Besides what looks like busy work for busy work's sake (mouse over for everything detailed is a sloppy habit to fall into), it's less friendly to bad eyesight than the old one was. That's not a good thing.

CCPlease, I'll make you a deal. I'll learn to love the new Aura voice if you give back something very much resembling in both form and function the old skill window. Fair deal?

>Jeven's String Puller


Polite critique is all good and well but not when it falls on deaf ears. Most of these criticisms were already brought up in the beta environment thread about how poor the new skill window is and were thoroughly ignored.


So basically CCP did the same thing with SiSi character sheet feedback as they do with any feedback that's not glowing in praise. Ignore it until the paying customers complaining shut up and/or go away. How disheartening. I'd honestly hoped with the (fingers crossed) large influx of actual new players, the bad habits of CCP's update/expansion behavior (breaking what works, shelving feedback, going for pretty over functional, delaying promise fulfillment to the time order of years) had been tossed aside so they wouldn't have to slog through the mess older players fight each and every update/release/expansion.

Le Sigh.

Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel.

'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises.

Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup.

Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P

No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.

GoHa RED
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#333 - 2016-11-16 04:50:20 UTC
Did CCP ever tried to explain why they changed good voice with obviously bad one?
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#334 - 2016-11-16 04:55:27 UTC
GoHa RED wrote:
Did CCP ever tried to explain why they changed good voice with obviously bad one?


New NPE work. Needed more voice work for the new NPE, and didn't want to have mixed voice files, is my understanding. The NPE MASSIVELY needed a rework. Haven't been through it yet myself, but the cost was a new voice over. I think this one woulda been okay had she not said so many things soooooo fast.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal

GoHa RED
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#335 - 2016-11-16 05:03:09 UTC
and what hapen with old voice? Why can't continue using it?
Ni Neith
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#336 - 2016-11-16 05:09:14 UTC
GoHa RED wrote:
and what hapen with old voice? Why can't continue using it?


CCP had to make it more appealing for children and casuals.
GoHa RED
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#337 - 2016-11-16 05:11:42 UTC
Is that official version and being said somewhere? Could you, please, provide a link?
Ni Neith
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#338 - 2016-11-16 05:19:06 UTC
GoHa RED wrote:
Is that official version and being said somewhere? Could you, please, provide a link?

No, it is what I think when I hear it. It sound like terrain star craft 2 voice to me and we all know who likes this game.
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#339 - 2016-11-16 05:20:32 UTC
It IS important to note that new Aura sounds much better from the bit of dabbling I've done in the new NPE and youtube vids I've watched. She just speaks waaay too fast in the standard interactions like warp drive active and docking.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal

Ni Neith
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#340 - 2016-11-16 05:24:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Ni Neith
Crosi Wesdo wrote:

CCP are a joke.

RIP.


Can confirm. Bot armies can fully automatically suck dry whole mining belts but cpp fails to write a script for changing clones without leaving the ship. And the one they did for not manually stopping the queue freezes my pc for several seconds.