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EVE Online: Ascension - General feedback (PC)

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Jegug Gyohoe
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#361 - 2016-11-16 07:49:35 UTC
Bring back the original voice, the new one is terrible Shocked
Levin Crack
#362 - 2016-11-16 08:03:02 UTC
o/ When will you guys hand out the rewards to loyal and subscribed players?
The stuff you guys promised to give out if you stayed subbed until the 8th or 15th or so? Smile
General Lynch
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#363 - 2016-11-16 08:17:38 UTC
Sophia Mileghere wrote:
Can you bring the old voice back?



This
Jeven HouseBenyo
Vanity Thy Name Is
#364 - 2016-11-16 08:33:55 UTC
How to phrase another problem with this new shiny character/skill sheet.

I get it you want people to subscribe to Omega Clone state. I get Alpha State is not where you want the vast majority of logins to come from. But sheesh.

CCPlease, you might want to tone down the spammy mouse over here there and everywhere popouts to subscribe as an Omega to use the nice shinier ships and mods. It's blocking my view of just about everything I try to do on the Alpha Clone accounts.

If this plan of ingame UI ads was run by a marketing study and was given full thumbs up, you got robbed on the results you were fed. This is beyond annoying. This borders on flipping off the monitor and logging out on any Alpha I have... for a very long to permanent timeline.

If I can't see what I'm doing around obsessive ads, I can't play

>Jeven

Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel.

'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises.

Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup.

Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P

No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.

Jules Cognac
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#365 - 2016-11-16 09:00:45 UTC
Please bring back the old Aura voice.
Excoecaria Agallocha
Corp 54
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#366 - 2016-11-16 09:01:07 UTC
Duns Minor wrote:
Yahoo mail is blocking the verification e-mails. This is Yahoo specific. No issues with gmail. Can you turn off 2 factor for 1 day so I can change e-mail address for my account?

And in 1 day most of their current support tickets would be resolved. Struggling with the same issue myself. I wonder how many Real-time Block Lists have been trigged because of enforced 2FA....
Jeven HouseBenyo
Vanity Thy Name Is
#367 - 2016-11-16 09:01:37 UTC
*Snip!*
Dominous Nolen wrote:


That and please a way to toggle off the docking camera. It takes to long to release the camera going through the transition and feels like it just takes longer overall with the Dynamic Camera on to enter and leave station.

I'd love to leave the dynamic camera on but turn off that component. Warping to an insta undock on station for example is annoying as I can't turn the camera out into space for several seconds.


*Snip!*

The undocking of ponderous animation is still tagged to Dynamic Camera Movement. Considering the long delay then silence on fixing some lingering complaints on the New Camera, it might be a while before it's divorced from that checkmark toggle. Wasn't the other workaround involving zooming camera range?

Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel.

'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises.

Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup.

Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P

No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.

Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#368 - 2016-11-16 09:29:23 UTC
How I would sum-up the comparison of the old Aura voice to the new one...

Old voice - "Warp Drive Active, there is a chance you are gonna die, I hope you know what you are doing"
New voice - "Warp Drive Active. Have a nice day"


Just ewwww

Annexe

ITAI - VIP

"i will pop your wreck with faction loot"

Artsnis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#369 - 2016-11-16 09:33:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Artsnis
bring old aura back. pls.

this is only nostalgic thing that i had for years in eve.
warp drive active.... rip.

im not telling that new voice is bad... but that was the voice that was with me for decade already.
just why?
Anna Tomy
Caille University Art Faculty
#370 - 2016-11-16 09:42:50 UTC
Annexe wrote:
How I would sum-up the comparison of the old Aura voice to the new one...

Old voice - "Warp Drive Active, there is a chance you are gonna die, I hope you know what you are doing"
New voice - "Warp Drive Active. Have a nice day"


Just ewwww



My guess: It's a bit "more like Glados". There seems to be a trend to make AI voices in games a bit glitchy following the success of Portal...
On a personal note: It's okay. Different, yeah, but no game breaker, far from "horrendous". But the drama is... interesting.
Raw Matters
Brilliant Starfire
#371 - 2016-11-16 09:44:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Raw Matters
Jeven HouseBenyo wrote:
CCPlease, I'll make you a deal.

I don't get you guys. Why would you want to make a deal with someone you pay for doing something you want? That's like telling a car dealer "Ok the car doesn't work, but if you give me a free car wash I'll let it slip."

That's not how it works. You are not a slave to CCP. You are not obliged to pay for this game. It is the other way around: they are obliged to deliver a game that you consider worth paying for. You are very much allowed to make demands when you hand them your monthly fee and with that essentially pay a fraction of their salary. And if they do something that offends the majority of the players, then you politely say "Thank you, but no thanks. Now fix it." And if they refuse to change it back, you in response refuse to pay them any further. And if they realize you are serious about your demands, things suddenly change. Because: guess how many people at CCP will receive a salary in December if all players spontaneously quit.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#372 - 2016-11-16 09:53:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
The problem is not the character sheet.

The problem is the person who keeps letting these changes go through in states that are inferior to what they are replacing.

That person has been slowly killing this game since the changes to the inventory system, and many papercuts since.

Until that person is ejected, not even the simplest and most fundamental parts of the game are safe.
Le Loup Gris
The Red Circle Inc.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#373 - 2016-11-16 10:01:48 UTC
It's only 4 years that I joined but I'm still amazed that EVE is running now for 13 years as a sandbox 'game' (almost) 24/7. Well, I used to be amazed.

Ever since CCP announced the shorter interval of expansions/changes EVE seems to be... unfinished. I think CCP Phantom himself states it perfectly in his community spotlight "Good perparation and adequate planning are also rare because often things are done in a slap-bang method..."

'Small' things I stumbled upon (most of them already mentioned)
- Aura (who sounds like the "Please ask your physician or pharmacist about the risks and side effects." in a medicine TV ad)
- Asteroids you can't target from space any more
- un/docking delays
- balancing ships (Rorqual! )
- as a subscriber still being on alpha clone
- reaction time of custom service

I understand that you need to change and adapt to 'survive'. Every patch/expansion has the risk of bugs and errors. I just whish that CCP would take more time to prepare and to test in advance. It appears CCP follows the general trend of getting rid of quality contro, releasing a work in progressl and let the customer do the rest. Lower the pace for the sake of quality.
Ni Neith
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#374 - 2016-11-16 10:05:26 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:


That person has been slowly killing this game since the changes to the inventory system.


I remember a time when salvage was already ordered and stored for each wreck. Now you have all individual parts and when you are done and click "stack all" your ffing system freezes!
Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#375 - 2016-11-16 10:07:20 UTC
So while the new explosions are pretty damn awesome, the camera reset delay looks to have been broken, which means while viewing a ship as it dies the camera jumps right back to the players ship.

No admiring new explosions.

This was something CCP changed not long ago. Fix pls. Again

Annexe

ITAI - VIP

"i will pop your wreck with faction loot"

Raw Matters
Brilliant Starfire
#376 - 2016-11-16 10:16:02 UTC
Anna Tomy wrote:
But the drama is... interesting.

I think part of the drama is the way this is forced down our throats, despite all the negative commends on SiSi. If they had made an option to revert back to the old voice, there would be a few "new Aura is bad" comments, but nothing more. The big problem however is, that CCP actually thinks that their... let me politely call it crap, is actually good, and that no one would even consider not using the new voice, or the new character sheet for that matter.

This very clearly shows two problems that are going on at CCP right now:
- Lack of connection to the player base aka arrogance
- Lack of ability to improve the game aka incompetence

Combining arrogance with incompetence is a guaranteed way to ruin literally everything. And I think that is fueling the current discussion: a certain fear that CCP is loosing the grip on this game once again.
Excoecaria Agallocha
Corp 54
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#377 - 2016-11-16 10:17:10 UTC
It occurred to me I might be waiting awhile for a response to my support ticket my launcher gives the error my e-mail address is not supported....

It almost like that Dilbert cartoon where they have to send an e-mail to let IT know that the e-mail server is down...

And I can't log in to my account to change my e-mail either.
Benevolant Khan
Doomheim
#378 - 2016-11-16 10:24:54 UTC
are we going to get a response from the devs on these issues or what?

Quite clearly vast majority hate the new voice (i personally havent had audio enabled for 5 yrs and have no intention of changing that)

The new character sheet is GARBAGE who signed off on this? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE change it back.

The orange / yellow borders and yellow omega icons on everything....WHY DO I NEED TO SEE THIS I AM PAYING YOU FOR THIS GAME, I DONT NEED TO SEE THIS.

Honestly your customer service REALLY REALLY needs improvement.
Rhah Nabunaid
Veni Vidi Vici Inc
Valkyrie Alliance
#379 - 2016-11-16 10:35:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhah Nabunaid
Would it really be so much to ask for an option to choose between the old and new voice of Aura, CCP?

I know the old one has been replaced with the new, but you've obviously still got the old files - which I know aren't that big in size, as I'm a Sound Designer myself - so adding these back in for the spoken commands as a second option shouldn't be too difficult. Nor would it have a great impact on the game in any way.
You'd just be enabling your players to play in a way that many (as should be obvious by now) prefer. Instead of just ripping something that they have come to love and have grown accustomed to away from under their noses for no apparent reason.

Also, since such a vast amount of players have been complaining about this change, I think it would only be fair for a Dev to at least finally comment on this change as to why it was made in the first place and what our prospects are regarding this matter.

I came back (as alpha) after a long break to see how this new expansion would turn out, and even though I'm sure that I will get used to all the other changes, when I first heard this new (terrible) voice for Aura I was shocked and, quite frankly, pissed off.
So as long as we haven't had a definitive statement from a Dev regarding this matter, I will certainly not be upgrading to Omega state.
Don't get me wrong, I know one subscriber more or less won't keep you awake at night, but at least it's one of the very few ways I have left to show that I don't agree with your choices. As, as someone else said before me, I'm not a slave to CCP and am not obliged to pay you.
Donna Stride
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#380 - 2016-11-16 10:39:52 UTC
Benevolant Khan wrote:
are we going to get a response from the devs on these issues or what?

Quite clearly vast majority hate the new voice (i personally havent had audio enabled for 5 yrs and have no intention of changing that)

The new character sheet is GARBAGE who signed off on this? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE change it back.

The orange / yellow borders and yellow omega icons on everything....WHY DO I NEED TO SEE THIS I AM PAYING YOU FOR THIS GAME, I DONT NEED TO SEE THIS.

Honestly your customer service REALLY REALLY needs improvement.


+1
Sums up the few, but really important, changes that I do not care for either; and many others it seems.