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118.9 - Issues Thread (PC)

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Lady Aesir
Ghost Recon Inc
#81 - 2016-10-13 23:36:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Aesir
New market graphs are very good. However, I would like to request that the bottom selected area where you can change the period displayed be remembered between selections as it keeps resetting to a 30 day cover everytime a new item is selected.

But again very nice change. Thank you
River LaCroix
Assault Squadron Indigo
Apocalypse Now.
#82 - 2016-10-14 16:54:11 UTC
Many Chat MOTD's are still broken and show blank, is there any fix for this?
Gizzie Haslack
4249003
#83 - 2016-10-14 17:52:09 UTC
As of server reboot today I keep getting kicked from the server. It's been fine for the past 3 weeks.

I'll play for about an hour, then the socket will close on me with no warning.

I'll then have to restart the game & hope.


I can log in. I just can't stay logged in for long. Mid mission or summat the server drops the connection.
Tanthos
Tanthos Corp
#84 - 2016-10-15 11:52:59 UTC
I've noticed that since the patch I get slow fps and stuttering in Windowed mode, but Full Screen is fine. Unfortunate because I prefer Windowed.
Innately Awesome
Princess Luna Personal Battalion
#85 - 2016-10-15 13:03:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Innately Awesome
Tanthos wrote:
I've noticed that since the patch I get slow fps and stuttering in Windowed mode, but Full Screen is fine. Unfortunate because I prefer Windowed.


Unfortunately I have to second that.

Since the patch, the game has become unplayable in Fixed Window. FPS drops from stable 60 on interval one to 40. Interval immediate goes to ~220 but I get a lot of stuttering. Full screen is smooth, no problems there. Setup is i7-6700, GTX 970 and 16 gigs of DDR4, so it didn't just turn obsolete overnight.

Fixed Window has always been my preferred way of playing, because then you can have EVE running on one screen and other stuff going on with secondary screens.

I came back to EVE a couple weeks back and it is disappointing to see same old mistakes with raw and defective patches being rolled out. Guess we will have to wait and see if CCP bothers resolving this or lets it slide as a low priority thing for a couple releases. Until then no EVE for me, because this is just bs.

EDIT: temporary workaround is play in Windowed mode and "Single display performance mode" override on GPU settings. This is NOT the same User Experience because you lose the benefits of having UI elements at the top of the screen.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2016-10-15 19:39:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
Innately Awesome wrote:
Tanthos wrote:
I've noticed that since the patch I get slow fps and stuttering in Windowed mode, but Full Screen is fine. Unfortunate because I prefer Windowed.


Unfortunately I have to second that.

Since the patch, the game has become unplayable in Fixed Window. FPS drops from stable 60 on interval one to 40. Interval immediate goes to ~220 but I get a lot of stuttering. Full screen is smooth, no problems there. Setup is i7-6700, GTX 970 and 16 gigs of DDR4, so it didn't just turn obsolete overnight.

Fixed Window has always been my preferred way of playing, because then you can have EVE running on one screen and other stuff going on with secondary screens.

I came back to EVE a couple weeks back and it is disappointing to see same old mistakes with raw and defective patches being rolled out. Guess we will have to wait and see if CCP bothers resolving this or lets it slide as a low priority thing for a couple releases. Until then no EVE for me, because this is just bs.

EDIT: temporary workaround is play in Windowed mode and "Single display performance mode" override on GPU settings. This is NOT the same User Experience because you lose the benefits of having UI elements at the top of the screen.

Thanks for the hint (will try later, currently in fleet ;), please open a ticket + bug report ... forum posts will not(!) help getting devs aware.

Also, fixed window mode is pretty much must have now, since the IGB is gone, in case you have only one physical screen.

EDIT: I'm just in a WH where at the same position I was exactly 1 week ago ... and today I have stuttering FPS around 30-40, whereas last week there were 60 FPS all the time ... nothing changed on my end, but the patch ...

I'm my own NPC alt.
True Insidious
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2016-10-15 19:48:20 UTC  |  Edited by: True Insidious
FPS went terrible overnight with the patch - 6 accounts playing at the same time went to 2 FPS! I've had to optimize for performance in the display and graphics screen. Everything was high before and now on low or disabled. As long as the effects are there it's not bad.

The game is just as playable without all the fancy graphis there. The FPS is now at 30 or so and that's ok for me.
CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#88 - 2016-10-16 02:15:34 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
please open a ticket + bug report ... forum posts will not(!) help getting devs aware.


We do read the forum posts, but particularly with performance issues, we really need the additional information that comes with in-game bug reports to be able to diagnose the issue.

These steps may be old news to some who are suffering performance problems, but first please make sure you do the following:

1) Update to the latest driver version for your graphics card. In some cases we may rely on driver functionality that requires certain versions or later to work.

2) Make sure you choose "Download Everything" in the launcher and let the download run to completion. Download on demand can be great for many players, but it can cause stuttering or slow loading for some people.

3) When you do submit a bug report, be sure to press ctrl-F and get a screen capture to show the frames-per-second performance you're experiencing, if it's relevant to the bug.

4) Finally, submit a bug report in-game by pressing F12 and choosing Report Bug. The in-game bug reporter attaches your system information, software versions, and client logs to the bug report so we can have that information available when we investigate.

Finally, if you would like to send me a bug report number in-game for graphic performance issues, please do and I can call our graphics tech team's attention to the report.

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2016-10-16 08:03:23 UTC
Thanks CCP Darwin, the bug report related to this is EBR-92978, made after the September patch. It's currently part of a ticket I renewed after the October patch, because the problem is even worse now. I suspect that part of the new issue is that certain settings which you can disable to increase performance like astro environment are not working, means they are always on.

Also I noticed that the citadel lights (docking, landing) sometimes are there sometimes not after the patch, haven't found a pattern yet ... and actually I'm becoming tired of chasing bugs and issues every patch Ugh

I'm my own NPC alt.
Ighten Stenier-Tian
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#90 - 2016-10-16 12:03:03 UTC
Im still baffled by the asteroid enviro switch - -you dont need bug reports for this .. its as obvious as Shocked
Ragori Mitternacht
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#91 - 2016-10-16 12:22:42 UTC
Been getting hit with Socket closures and being shut out till I close the launcher and relaunch it. Occasional server shutdown kicks saying that the server kicked me.

Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#92 - 2016-10-16 12:41:23 UTC
Ighten Stenier-Tian wrote:
Im still baffled by the asteroid enviro switch - -you dont need bug reports for this .. its as obvious as Shocked

I guess it's a deeper problem ... because they merged settings and rewrite the post processing. Otherwise they would have fixed it with the next days patch ...

.. I have switched to low shaders now, otherwise I'm not able to play anymore ... but also with this I get stutter, also in the probes window (never before). There is more ... but since my bug report was not processed since September patch and also the few people complaining here, I have not much hope this is high on the priority list ... so I can see the time where I have to stop playing with my hardware.

I'm my own NPC alt.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2016-10-16 21:05:19 UTC
Not sure when it started but lately i often have semi-broken market in Jita. Lags and inability to set up sell orders. 'Underpaid workers blah-blah...'. I think it started week or about ago.

Other than that the game works well.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#94 - 2016-10-17 00:26:54 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Darwin
Ighten Stenier-Tian wrote:
Im still baffled by the asteroid enviro switch - -you dont need bug reports for this .. its as obvious as Shocked

If you experience a problem 100% of the time on your machine, it still may not be evident to you whether it's as a result of your using certain hardware. Bug reports give us tons of additional information about your system, and are essential to us for those cases where we can't reproduce a problem from a superficial explanation of what's happening on the forums.

CCP Antiquarian and I discussed this issue this evening and we'll be looking into it, but a bug report will always give us more useful information than posting here, and I ask that if you can spare the time to make one for issues you encounter, please do. Even if you don't think it'll add anything to the investigation of a problem, it often will.

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins
Deezy Skeelzz
DEDlyfe Inc.
Corpse Disposal Services
#95 - 2016-10-17 03:06:28 UTC
Every time i want to get on i have to log on like 3 times in a row. Cause when i try to log on, just after selecting char i get the socked closecd message. but itll work fine about the 3rd time i try. its happening to a bunch of people i know
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#96 - 2016-10-17 08:59:15 UTC
What has happened to being able to run off "Asteroid Environments"?

I have it turned off on all my miners but for some reason, ALL are showing the rubbish (and unfortunately using the extra resources that come with using such pointless visual effects.

CCPlease fix it..,,..
It really is annoying to look at....

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It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#97 - 2016-10-17 10:18:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
CCP Darwin wrote:
Ighten Stenier-Tian wrote:
Im still baffled by the asteroid enviro switch - -you dont need bug reports for this .. its as obvious as Shocked

If you experience a problem 100% of the time on your machine, it still may not be evident to you whether it's as a result of your using certain hardware. Bug reports give us tons of additional information about your system, and are essential to us for those cases where we can't reproduce a problem from a superficial explanation of what's happening on the forums.

CCP Antiquarian and I discussed this issue this evening and we'll be looking into it, but a bug report will always give us more useful information than posting here, and I ask that if you can spare the time to make one for issues you encounter, please do. Even if you don't think it'll add anything to the investigation of a problem, it often will.

I appreciate your help on that matter, but this issue was already confirmed by CCP Phantom on patch day last Tuesday (refer to https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6667703#post6667703). Your reply sounds like you were just made aware of by the recent posts Ugh And yes the astro environment is a performance killer for mediocre machines ... please also check if other settings are activated while switched off in settings... are the god rays, post processing, HDR really off if set to "none"?

I'm my own NPC alt.
CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#98 - 2016-10-17 11:06:15 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Your reply sounds like you were just made aware of by the recent posts

In what you quoted, was making a more general comment about the value of bug reports.

That said, I'm not myself directly working on the asteroid toggle issue described here. I'm just following up with the art & graphics team to make sure that we're properly tracking and investigating the matter, and letting you and other affected players know that we are aware and looking at it.

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins
Ighten Stenier-Tian
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#99 - 2016-10-17 18:23:23 UTC
Sgt Ocker wrote:
What has happened to being able to run off "Asteroid Environments"?

I have it turned off on all my miners but for some reason, ALL are showing the rubbish (and unfortunately using the extra resources that come with using such pointless visual effects.

CCPlease fix it..,,..
It really is annoying to look at....


Thats the issue I have..I can run them with no prob but they look terrible -- The big prob is you have decently textured (usable) asteroids surrounded by flat horrible grey potatoes.. Add to that the god rays shader is way over the top.. there should not be 40 pinstripe rays like this...

Anyway as long as its being worked on thats fine..
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#100 - 2016-10-18 07:46:43 UTC
For some reason, you have turned on Asteroid Environments in all missions that feature asteroids. This ignores the Asteroid Environments settings under Display And Graphics and cannot be turned off. The effect impacts my graphics performance noticeably, in particular in missions with gas clouds that already strain my GPU. Ought to be fixed. I do not see the added value of sand grains on my screen as graphical visual improvement of the game.

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