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Just say no to invulnerable cynos. If you want to light a cyno for reinforcements, it should be done on the Rorquals, not on a invulnerable Procurer.

So, since Rorquals cannot receive the PANIC effect, they should be able to light the cynosural field to bring in the reinforcements. Ships with an active cynosural field should not receive the PANIC effect. Nor should ships receiving the effect be able to light the field.

I laugh, however, at the idea of logging off a Procurer with a cyno in a hostile belt, logging in, lighting my cyno and receiving the hostile PANIC effect so I cannot be killed and can keep bringing in more stuff to kill their Rorqual.

Good luck with that, as the drone bonus only applies when the core is active, and you are stuck in one spot.

This^^

Will the Panic Field relay to the ship or to the Pilot? Will I be able to leave a Panic Barge and warp off with my pod? If not, this field will not work very well in Wormhole Space, because my Cavalry are mostly sitting in other Barges next to me, ready to warp back and change to pvp fitted clones and ships.

How do the excavator drones work? do they still have to fly back to the rorqual to drop the ore or will they drop jetcans like other pilots will do?

What is the highest range of (Capital) Tractor Beams on the rorqual? I didn´t see any special (role) bonuses, like I think it now has.

You know what would be really cool? If a capital tractor beam worked on asteroids. With asteroids being scoopable.

While you're looking at the rorqual and related modules:

Any chance of allowing capital tractor beams to work on all wrecks regardless of ownership (at least in 0.0)?

The loot whorqual has been sub-optimal for too long!

Going to be buried at this point....

The Rorqual ship maintenance bay needs review. It seems odd to have a capital industrial ship that cannot transport the ships/items it is helping to produce. Especially since you can suit case a carrier/dread and drag any fit ships you want. It needs balanced to not challenge the role of jump freighters but at current the limitation on the ship maintenance bay seems needlessly restrictive in contrast to a carrier/dread.

Also just a note, Ii think leadership V should be a requirement for mining director 1. The only point of mining director 1 is to use the links. The links themselves require Leadership V.

the rorqual does receive invul mode. they just cant receive it from someone else. they have to jump in and lite it themselves or lite it from the belt. their rorqual and the mining fleet is protected. other rorquals in the belt are not.

Are you sure a Rorqual is supposed to be good at ninja mining? I thought that's what the mining frigates are for.

Then tell the masses who want to get rich solo through mining and think corps will cost them money.

To point one, PvP and Mining should share a similar property; having more people on grid increases effectiveness mechanically, or thanks to combining the efforts of modules fitted to the ships, rather than continuing to lean super hard on that "give more ships and more buffs" crutch that they've been on since T2 cruisers.

Point two, I'll give you my second tier idea. Not my first, that's mine alone. Second tier idea says you get the ore's market values at current time in a big spreadsheet. Then you pay the person that mined such ore that value. Now, youre only paying them the market price, say there's a 15-16 veld spread and you give them 15.5. Because they can sit there and mine continously, they aren't having to set up hauling (and pay for it), or buy a hauler (although this is a one-off unless ganked), and spend TIMEAKAMONEY to haul their own stuff or set those contracts up.

If there's a problem ACCOOUNTING for people's value, there's not enough buckets on the line.

There's a wealth of information regarding how real mining works, and CCP and players ignore how those companies work and what the requirements are.

Take anom ore sites as an example where CCP decided to reduce content by making it "easy" to find them. No more do you need a probe scanner, and the "aggravation" of getting your alt out or hiring someone else.

Key point at the end there, hiring someone else. Could you imagine if this game was dynamic enough to allow for "exploration services"? A corporation who's only goal is to discover things in Eve for other players to make use of, and therefore be able to profit from being that kind of individual?

But no, CCP pruned this because people complained, just as they're complaining now, about things which they were annoyed to need alts for. People whine because they need alts to run their mining fleets. But they're spending lots of money IRL to be able to multibox those fleets, and in doing so they're doing the literal work 15 other people could be doing with them. They're cutting themselves out of player generated content, then crying, then CCP is making new ships and superbuffing the Rorq. Im sure CCP made it so you don't need probes because people hated the "minigame requirement" of using probes and scanners to find ore, especially since that meant getting their alt out or having another ship in system to do the probing.

In actuality PEOPLE are the problem with the game. People who want to be able to SOLO THE UNIVERSE, and are either willing to spend lots of money on multiboxes or just use alts+their own main to probe things down so they can profit from it, and, not willing to share that profit, do not want to involve other players or collaborate, and thus call probing a "time wasting mindless chore thats not fun" until CCP changes it.

People's attitudes are the problem. I heard there was an awesome game where it is against the EULA to have alts, or to dual box, etc. That game sounds amazing, because it enforces the need for people to rely on others rather than making alt armies to produce their own ships, mine their own ore, etc. If things keep going this path, I wonder how many subs it'll start stealing from Eve.

CCP seems to be designing this game to encourage people to get around cooperative gameplay. Pirate mains going full carebear using alts for market comes to mind.