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Movement Effects:
-100% Rorqual velocity
+900% Rorqual mass
Prevents warping, docking, jumping, cloaking, tethering


Can we get the -100% Rorqual velocity removed on the industrial core and remove the changing of the ship it is not needed anymore in the game as compression is now instant and the bpos/bpcs for compression were removed so this is outdated and not needed. Using the invul field already basically keeps you stuck on grid so no need to keep the rorqual immobile using the industrial core. Or at the very least reduce the cycle time of the industrial core to 1 minute as compression is instant now and the longer time for indy core cycle time is obsolete.

I'm pretty sure about my numbers:

By a quick check in pyfa, a current Rorqual with around 80% resists and a single CASB has above 6k / sec local reps. If I multiply that by 3.5... Okay, I ignored the reload time here, but the fact is, it's easy to reach insane tank on a rorqual in controlled situations (e.g. where you are able to supply it with an insane amount of cap charges). Even if I missed something and these bonuses are additive with something else, it's still insane.

For the remote reps:

-75% Remote shield booster duration and cap use.

I'm pretty sure that's a bonus there.

I was also speaking about a very specific situation: indy corp defending its base somewhere.

I'm also sure that the same facts make dual/multi boxed mining rorquals really hard to kill (yes, they can't remote rep each other while the core is active, but they can rep the defense fleet) - assuming that mining with excavator drones will be worth it.

the cargo scan is nice if we were still in 2007 before we could abandon cans and they turn colors. change the name to "its done" and that nullifies a complete bonus on a ship. now we have a definitive time to pull cans and we dont have to try to target a can with a capital ship.

how about dropping the cargo scan option for a drone control and optimal range bonus?

the fleet will be spread out, we will need to defend our miners. not only rep their shield, but kill the rats on em.

typical situation...drop sentries, set to defend xxx miner only to find out they are out of range. not a good thing.

the cargo bonus is 200% range. carriers got a 200% drone/fighter control range bonus before the fighter changes.
how about changing the cargo scan bonus to 200% drone control range and say 100% optimal/fall off?
or 200% control range as a role bonus and 100% optimal tied to the industrial core siege mode. maybe 150% for t2.

much more useful this way.

or a 200% control range role bonus and 20% per level optimal/fall off per level.

PANIC module should block entosis/break active locks/disallow it somehow. Whatever it takes, it can't be allowed to go live without a tweak there.

A 100% immune entosis ship is a *bad* thing.

Ed: and NSA type restrictions on ewar are only sane too.

The Rorqual fails at this pillar, but not due to control range (which is part of your high slot and rig fitting choices).

You are not going to recall your mining turtles to launch combat drones. The barges will instead use their combat drones to clear the rats off the Rorqual, in some cases before the excavators can even be pulled in. In a PvP scenario you are going to abandon the mining drones to launch combat. Rats won't be worth losing the yield to clear faster. If there are no barges on grid, people might even ignore the rats completely.

Another thing that may become a big concern with respect to rats, is if they regularly primary the excavators. They are currently listed with 600 shield hp and 0% resists. You are not going to keep them up even if you prelock. We do not yet know the price point of the drones either. Players in small ships will be able to pick away at the drones and run before the Rorqual can respond. Not much of a fleet defender if it can't keep its own mining drones alive, is it? A better choice may be to make the excavator a single, more sturdy drone. The Rorqual could then mine with it while still fielding 4 combat drones.

The intent for PANIC is to be able to continue mining, but it will not apply to drones that we know of. Players will kill off the excavators stopping mining activity under panic anyway. To be honest, some people will be more interested in jetting the ore they already have to shrink the lossmail value and hope the attackers leave it behind, rather than want to continue mining. This is part of why I would like to see max targets locked and drone bandwidth set to 0 under panic, to prevent abuse edge cases. ECM Burst would still be usable, for better or worse. You want to retain ability to cycle modules, as dropping out of PANIC with hardners off would be really bad. Making cynos break the invulnerability would also give the pilot control for when the defense fleet needs reps and added dps, with its own costs to doing so.

Then we have the problem of dealing with two existing drone bugs in the game.

The first makes your drones the top priority target for all rats on grid. It requires a session change to fix. This will periodically cost you excavator drones and mining time until you realize the problem and fix it.

The second is a bug that occurs when recalling your drones. They are back in your bay, but your drone interface gets stuck showing them as still in space and "returning". The drones do not show in your drone window as inside the bay, so you can't relaunch the same flight. Launching a different flight does not update the interface. You can no longer tell when your drones are being targeted, which ones are out, or even if they're alive or not unless you can tell yours apart in the drone ball on grid. Recalling the next flight usually bugs out that one as well. I see this bug literally every single day. Sometimes every 20 minutes despite session changes and relaunching the client. I am not looking forward to having to deal with this in a Rorqual in a pvp scenario. "Let me just eject from my ship for 10 seconds and board it again to fix my UI real quick"

In fact, when it happened earlier today, it would not update my shields or armor either despite the citadel tether repairing my ship to full.

This just all this. Also the cyno should be allowed during panic.

I did miss the duration bonus so my apologies on that. You still don't have a lot of remote repping power with the Rorqual compared to a Fax, and I don't think it's enough to really hold up to much. Enough to buy time? Sure. Enough to stop a serious attempt at attacking something without being reinforced by a proper fleet? Not happening.

As far as the local tank goes, you can reach a quite high EHP and local rep. You are susceptible to neuting pressure, however, and you do need to keep your active tank running in order to reach these high EHP gains and don't have much room for cap injection. Either way it's all still trying to buy time for help to arrive, because with that sort of a fit you're not going to be killing much although you might survive for awhile.

If an indy corp wants to defend it's base with a Rorqual that's fine, but it's not an asset that I, personally, would use for that unless it was a last stand in a wormhole and I wanted to go out fighting and had literally nothing left to fight with. There's a lot better ships to fly to do that with, though.

Force rorquals to stay in belt is bad already,
but to give that insane boost to mining of those with industry core active,
that is worst possible thing to do, better simply remove mining boost at all.
Can't imagine the sick brain behind such idea, but it is what will benefit only few biggest alliances, and put in mayor disadvantage EVERYONE else.
Just look at megacyte price, hour after that dev blow, it drop 20%? on price.

This is why CCP lose playerbase all the time, as CCP listen to those cry babys gathered around failscade alliances, who are in minority, but cry loudest and everywhere.

CCP, i'd consider making the rorqual 300mil mass so it can go through mid class wormholes, this will increase activity in wh space for miners and pvpers.

When my alt blitzed L4 missions in a Rattlesnake during the war, I saw it all of twice over the course of months. But blitzing involves constant gate jumps, station docking and ship swaps.

Living out of a citadel, staying in-system most of the time, I see it all the time. It's not just me either. I heard dozens of people complain about it on comms over the past month.


Build it inside?