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[November] New Sunesis destroyer

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Ion Blacknight
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2016-09-23 02:39:05 UTC
Kenbones Valkyrie wrote:
Cargo space is too big. 600 is the same size as a Dominix.


All battleships have disproportionately small cargo bays.

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erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#82 - 2016-09-23 07:43:36 UTC
Ion Blacknight wrote:
Kenbones Valkyrie wrote:
Cargo space is too big. 600 is the same size as a Dominix.


All battleships have disproportionately small cargo bays.


Thats why CCP gave us marauders...
Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2016-09-23 10:06:02 UTC
i don't know the mathematics....
But how fast would this ship go with 50MN microwarpdrive, no overdrive injectors? Big smileBig smile
Mole Guy
Bob's Bait and Tackle
#84 - 2016-09-24 19:48:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Mole Guy
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PhosGate
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2016-09-27 09:01:31 UTC
Personally I like the slot layout and the drones I just think the defense is lacking. Base stats should be 1000 shield/armor/hull giving it a 1250 across the board after skills. Being much more tanky gives it a role somewhere between tier one and tier two dessies. It also makes sense if you break it down from the Gnosis and fill in the rest of the SoCT line if it is decided to fill out the line (and you should, me wants a 7/7/7 BS)

Gnosis: 6/6/6 and base 4000 S/A/H, 5000 after skills
*future cruiser: 5/5/5 base 2000 S/A/H, 2500 after skills
Sunesis: 4/4/4 and base 1000 S/A/H, 1250 after skills
*future frigate: 3/3/3/ base 500 S/A/H, 675 after skills

**future BS: 7/7/7 base 8000 S/A/H, 10000 after skills

Defense doubling from the previous ship as you scale up the line from frigate to battleship, much like you add one to every slot as you scale up.
logical progression and allows for good defense yet lacking projection as the hallmark of the SoCT line.
Ion Blacknight
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2016-09-28 18:16:50 UTC
erg cz wrote:
Ion Blacknight wrote:
Kenbones Valkyrie wrote:
Cargo space is too big. 600 is the same size as a Dominix.


All battleships have disproportionately small cargo bays.


Thats why CCP gave us marauders...


No, it isn't.

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Aaron Raus
Whispering Pines Golf Club
#87 - 2016-09-29 13:43:13 UTC
PhosGate wrote:
Personally I like the slot layout and the drones I just think the defense is lacking. Base stats should be 1000 shield/armor/hull giving it a 1250 across the board after skills. Being much more tanky gives it a role somewhere between tier one and tier two dessies. It also makes sense if you break it down from the Gnosis and fill in the rest of the SoCT line if it is decided to fill out the line (and you should, me wants a 7/7/7 BS)

Gnosis: 6/6/6 and base 4000 S/A/H, 5000 after skills
*future cruiser: 5/5/5 base 2000 S/A/H, 2500 after skills
Sunesis: 4/4/4 and base 1000 S/A/H, 1250 after skills
*future frigate: 3/3/3/ base 500 S/A/H, 675 after skills

**future BS: 7/7/7 base 8000 S/A/H, 10000 after skills

Defense doubling from the previous ship as you scale up the line from frigate to battleship, much like you add one to every slot as you scale up.
logical progression and allows for good defense yet lacking projection as the hallmark of the SoCT line.


future cruiser: 5/5/5 is ok - Stratios works just fine. But 3/3/3 for frigate? Umm, with enormous drone bay - than may be... something like a tristan
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#88 - 2016-10-06 12:35:25 UTC
Logan Jakal wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Logan Jakal wrote:
So my question is not about the ship itself, but about the offer. Are PLEXed account eligible to this offer ?

Yup


Thank you Fozzie. Could be worth it to clarify this part in the news so people are aware of it :p

They said "subscribed" which means "paid by RL money" or "PLEXed"

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Nya Kittenheart
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#89 - 2016-10-13 23:49:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Nya Kittenheart
Any chance we get the +10 bonus to relic and data analyser virus strenght on both the Sunesis and Gnosis ?you ve already given that bonus for free to the SOE ship line (please remenber astero do not have the skill requirement of a COV ops).
Would be nice especially when u brand those ship as exploration ones ...
Captain Campion
Campion Corp.
#90 - 2016-10-15 10:48:08 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Logan Jakal wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Logan Jakal wrote:
So my question is not about the ship itself, but about the offer. Are PLEXed account eligible to this offer ?

Yup


Thank you Fozzie. Could be worth it to clarify this part in the news so people are aware of it :p

They said "subscribed" which means "paid by RL money" or "PLEXed"


It is confusing because account management says my subscription is cancelled. So if there's a gift only to active subscriptions it sounds like I wouldn't get it.

But my subscription is cancelled because it's prepaid for a couple of years. So I really should be getting the gifts.

Hopefully Fozzie's comment about plex implies it's not based on the credit card subscription so it should work out... hopefully.
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#91 - 2016-10-15 12:01:01 UTC
Captain Campion wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
Logan Jakal wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Logan Jakal wrote:
So my question is not about the ship itself, but about the offer. Are PLEXed account eligible to this offer ?

Yup


Thank you Fozzie. Could be worth it to clarify this part in the news so people are aware of it :p

They said "subscribed" which means "paid by RL money" or "PLEXed"


It is confusing because account management says my subscription is cancelled. So if there's a gift only to active subscriptions it sounds like I wouldn't get it.

But my subscription is cancelled because it's prepaid for a couple of years. So I really should be getting the gifts.

Hopefully Fozzie's comment about plex implies it's not based on the credit card subscription so it should work out... hopefully.


Yeah, he straight up said plexed accounts get the new stuff, too. If you're really anxious about free stuff, just screenshot his post or something so you can show it to the support if it doesn't work out.
Nya Kittenheart
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#92 - 2016-10-21 11:13:47 UTC
Nya Kittenheart wrote:
Any chance we get the +10 bonus to relic and data analyser virus strenght on both the Sunesis and Gnosis ?you ve already given that bonus for free to the SOE ship line (please remenber astero do not have the skill requirement of a COV ops).
Would be nice especially when u brand those ship as exploration ones ...


Any chance i get an answer please?
1/yes we may envisage it
2/ No,us as the developping teams blah blah blah reasonsRoll

Quote:
Sunesis
“The Sunesis-class SoCT Destroyer .... It serves well in research and exploration but truly comes into its own in combat, with extremely fast align time.


How can he serve ? if you only giving it half the bonus.

In hope of a positive answer Lol



Moni TrueColor
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#93 - 2016-10-21 11:38:01 UTC

I think too, its better with 25 mBits

But amazed style ... looks nice XD
Claire -58x
Doomheim
#94 - 2016-10-21 11:45:49 UTC
possibly the most ugly ship in EVE? LolPCool
Nya Kittenheart
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#95 - 2016-10-22 10:36:33 UTC
Kind of crazy idea came too me :) It doesn't exist in the game a small/mid sized hauler with cargo scan immunity.
With the cargohold size of the Sunesis +4 lows+3 rigs slot+ decently fast align time, wouldnt it be interesting to turn that into a small capacity high evasion hauler?
With no cov ops it s still fairly catchable in low and null(maybe) and cargo scan immunity would give interesting interactions in high sec .Otherwise the ship seems a little weak in my opinion.
motie one
Secret Passage
#96 - 2016-10-26 22:03:42 UTC
Nya Kittenheart wrote:
Kind of crazy idea came too me :) It doesn't exist in the game a small/mid sized hauler with cargo scan immunity.
With the cargohold size of the Sunesis +4 lows+3 rigs slot+ decently fast align time, wouldnt it be interesting to turn that into a small capacity high evasion hauler?
With no cov ops it s still fairly catchable in low and null(maybe) and cargo scan immunity would give interesting interactions in high sec .Otherwise the ship seems a little weak in my opinion.


The problem is that some players like to play the Blockade runner lottery, cargo scan immunity, can cause issues where players take the chance that it might be full of plex, and It would not take too expensive a gank ship to pop one of these.

It would tend to result in all these new players we are expecting, getting popped in an unholy massacre, which would not be good for the future of these alphas.

Of course, some will claim that killing players en mass will lead to improved retention, and quote CCP rise, but batshit crazy, is batshit crazy, no matter who one quotes.
PhosGate
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#97 - 2016-10-27 07:38:25 UTC  |  Edited by: PhosGate
Ghost fitting works for this on SISI now

Fitting for it is generous:

AAR, AR2, EANM2 and DC2 lows
Compact 10mn and T2 web, scram, s cap booster mids
trio of 200mm(T2) and a rocket launcher(T2) highs Rage and RF EMP
T2 poly, T2 aux pump and a T1 acr for rigs
hob2s
yields @270 dps heated, @1880 m/s heated, @2.4s align, @6400 EHP
everything heated and it's cap stabile in the mid 50% range

Armor buffer fits possible and might actually see reps land

Twin medium ASB fits possible but resists are bad - mid 30s

MSE, AIF2 scram fits work if that's your thing

Hull buffer works but Algos does it better even if base is pushed to 1000

*not bad.....I'd still like to see 1000 base shield armor and hull......logical progression issues

PVE fit with MAP, Co-Proc, DDA2 and DC2 in lows lets you fit two RF MSEs, AIF2 and Compact 10mn
getting 20k EHP with T2 extender rigs and still have room for several different non laser turrets and a sisters probe launcher

T2 Poly, T2 LFNJ and T1 LFNJ drops align below 2s leaving 78.8 PG, 218.8 CPU and 12 slots for whatever your flavor
Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#98 - 2016-10-28 21:20:41 UTC
Does this now mean we have to be subbed for another week to get the rewards?
Well played CCP, well played.
nate albush
Iron Whales
Goonswarm Federation
#99 - 2016-10-29 02:05:05 UTC
Finally we have a new destroyer :D I really do hope for more faction destroyers like amarr faction destroyers and all that though I'm glad we have a gnosis type Dessie :D
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#100 - 2016-10-29 10:00:46 UTC
Could be an interesting boat. How many do we get?

If those are another one time thing, may I suggest a name change to more accurately describe the function of this boat?

I suggest "free-killmail" or "gank-mah-now".

It's not that the boat is bad, people are bad. If I would be a gambling type, my bet is that it takes less than an hour before the first one goes poof.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

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