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Hey Mike, good to see you posting. You're always weclome in my mining fleet ♥

When Rorqual prices crash, I am buying three of them and multiboxing with the new mining fighters.

How is using a Rorqual in a belt - out of Industrial Core mode - any different than ratting in a Carrier?

Im not sure if this has been asked and answered already, but im currently away from the game, and while the change to bringing boosting on-grid has been long due, i cant say im very happy with the current iteration.

I understand why CCP chose this direction, but dont they think this will simply reward N+1 gameplay i.e. always favor the larger player groups?

People who, for the majority, fly in small groups of 3-5, giving up a pilot to fly a 'command' ship is a major loss in 'gang power', as compared to an alliance 50-man Cerb blob, investing 1 of 50 pilots to the role?

Further, what happens to 'fast/kiting' gameplay? The gang is as good as the slowest ship, so unless CCP is about to give us high speed Command Ships (speedboost Sleipnirs!), how do they expect this gameplay to survive?

Command Destroyers now need to hug their gangs OR focus on attacking/defensive MJD tactics? Whats the point then?

I respect its not for everyone, but its the best way to stretch engagements and fight outnumbered, one of the core emergent gameplay for many subscribers, including me.

What happens to Marauders in PvP with on-grid boosting requirements?

What happens to Phantasm or Nightmare gangs?

Yes, all these changes apply to everyone equally but theyre clearly going to reward the F1 conga-line 50+ Cerb/Caracal/Insert-Ship fleets even more.

Small gang pilots like me will evolve and adapt, but these are very shortsighted changes. Very odd.

You have to get good if you want to skirmish.

We almost always fly skirmish without links. It will be fun to see what happens now that we run into other skirmish gangs that heavily rely on links.

the thing is, most industrialists are under the impression that 90% or the minerals are mined by 1% of the undustrialists ;) I personally know people who mine more than 250b worth of ore per month... if 99% of the industrialists unsub their accounts, the prices will still not change that much...

my impression might be wrong tho. it might only be 80% of the minerals...

this is what we need to do!

+1 here :)

This is why I agree with a change for combat boosts, but not for mining.

lets shift from minor, oops miner, concerns lol...

CCP, will training requirements for CS be altered in this?

In the past for the its bs you need to train all the warfare base skills to fly CS change this threads I have been in the just train them and move on camp. reason being the base warfare skills gave, imo, almost as vital passive resists. Why am I training armour says the person interested in shield boosting.


I'd say 10 % armour ehp is actually useful to even shield tankers. I have had a rokh come home smoking from hull damage, but it came home alive. 10% more armour soaked up the damage that would have had rokh hull pop, I saw its value. 10% targeting range...not a passive bonus to kick out of bed either if no plans to run info links.

In this change the passives are going. And so does my only logical reason why a new booster would need to train all this really. Its now a salty bitter argument of because well we did it. Which for some bitters...we are pre CS change. We needed no heavy leadership trains in the past.

Old boy/girl wants shields and will only be shields they get nothing from armour trains after november. With the normal limit of 3 becoming 2 for CS, the +1 boost mod becoming a rig....chance of me in say nighthawk going lets run armour command burst no bonus from ship slim to none really. Its getting harder to run these mods, I won't be wasting space on unbonused mods.


Inb4 combat CS easier to train this way. This bridge crossed and burned when the CS change made. Intent by design was to focus on CS as a booster , that should be its consideration for training.

Boosting is changing, some warfares will make no sense since no passives....will this stuff be staying the tl;dr question I have.

except you are training for the command ship skill when you are training those skills and that skill is used for all races. Not only that but it is not a random selection of skills when they decide what skills go into a ship they find ones that make seance and that take long enough.


basically if they took out needing all the leardership skills they would replace them with something else that takes just as long considering the time it takes to fly a t2 BC currently fits between cruiser and BB as it should