EVE General Discussion

I take not being able to read just isnt your thing. I asked for helpful and not out of date. Yes I know there is massive amounts of information out there, yes I have watch countless hour long youtube tutorials and read articles that are pages long, only to find out when i go back in game theres nothing familiar to what Ive just watched or read.

What I am saying about eve is, I am more than happy to play eve the way it is, in fact I wouldnt change anything. What I dont want is to have to spend more time reading than playing, is that concept to hard for you to grasp.

If new players were left to just grasp the game as it goes along without having to spend plex to pay for what has been destroyed so you and/or others can have a free game experience on the inexperienced.

I think as an intelligent person, still very much on the outside with eve, I have a somewhat different perspective on eves future, and by CCPs actions for the november update says it all, newbies come and play for free, even I can see that this is not the way eve should be.

So whats CCPs alternative to come down hard on those making it difficult for newbies and even young old me can see that that wouldnt work either.

What I can see is the people who play eve, with the unique way that eve works, has to fixed from within. CCP change too much and people will be left disgruntled.

Eve is the only game that Im aware of where the established players are completely hostile or intolerant or just cant be bothered. The few and I think Im not wrong in saying the few that are helpful, want me to carry on. My second time being taken out, a total stranger came up to me and gave me 50 million isk. Yes I have already had the dilemma was he/she part of the gank but kind enough regardless, I dont know.

Now im not saying go kill and then pay us for the damage done, what I am saying is I dont know the answer but all I know is there are gangs that are targeting the new players for whatever reason. It is this and this alone that I am disagreeing with.

Now as I have stated above CCP is powerless to do anything about this, if they do there will be the disgruntled. Only the people of eve can stop this if you want.

And yet on the other hand if you agree with gangs with a combined experience of 16 years taken out someone with 3 weeks experience as being ok then i bid you all farewell and good luck.

Why you newbies want to be good at EVE so much? EVE when played bad is a lot more interesting.

You would be bored to death by doing everything right.

Hisec is safer if you have a cheap ship. It's not perfectly safe.
If someone said it was perfectly safe, this someone was lying or misinformed.

+1 I agree.

The topic is 'help ccp bring more players into eve!," right? Some thoughts.
-The cash spent on internet targeted advertising (Eve ads on your sidebar) might just be showing ads to just us. People who already play Eve. I have no idea what the targeted persons profile is, but I get a fair amount of Eve advertising when I log into Yahoo or FB. "Wait, those animations and graphics over there look familiar... ah, it's Eve." I suppose it could help people decide to resubscribe. But is it reaching our fellow weirdos who would enjoy this game? Maybe an expensive 15 sec shot on syfy TV could be worth much more?

-Skill injector initiative might be good for low- mid-level players anxious to get over some hump. New players-- they won't even know that exist for a while. Much less how to beneficially use them.

-Code ganking. Honestly and overall, you guys know you could only do a service to the game if you popped real "afk/bot aspirants." If you can find one of those and kill it, then that would be a true service to high sec. Ganking new players because they're new and n00b, and also doing that circular double-talk, putting words into people's mouths, chat-ganging the victim-- that only makes people want to get the hell out of Eve and take a Lysol shower.

-The PVE is good enough, IMO. Once you got your game down, you can try soloing some epic arcs for challenges. If that's to simple for you, you can find a wormhole and take on some sleeper sites. If you get bored with that, you can try some PVP experiments in low sec. Faction Warfare is always hiring, and it's cheap ships stuff and has no player corp obligations at all.

Truth is, every player in this game started as a guy creating an account. picking a race and line, designing a char portrait, coming up with some hasty char name, and hitting Go. I had fun doing that a new noob, hanging out, gathering information, and comparing notes with other fellow new guys in my new guy corp. We were flat broke, but working hard to get every little isk, and having some ignorance or derp isk-catastrophe things happen just made it more fun. I had much fun playing Eve as a regular dad guy, just logging into an MMO in the evenings to see what would happen next.

Maybe letting new players just do something like that might let them tool around, take some time to try things out, and just explore around at their own pace could help bring and retain more players. Fact of life, people, fish, and reptiles really enjoy seeking out behaviors and exploring new things. When their snouts run into noxious things, most do a 135 degree turn and consider checking out something else.

PvP needs improvement, and it needs instanced RBG's like WoW. People should be able to Queue for Faction Warfare battles, anytime anywhere. Let us win prizes from our chosen factions, (and make it rewarding to be a loyalist) and expand it to include pirates or Alliances that achieve a certain membership threshold. No it's not "realistic" in that you don't have to jump 50 times to get back to FW space (who has time for that!?) but it would be ******* awesome, and it would appease the kind of instant gratifcation all PvP players crave and expect.

You should respawn if you die in the instance, but you only get to keep your ship after leaving the instance IF you didn't die. If you die once you get to keep respawning, but you lose it at the end of the battlefield...This would promote revenue from credit card warriors like myself who make more money isk per hour irl than in game. :P


The downside to this is that people would complain it takes away from World PvP. It could if it was managed inproperly.

What does good PVE look like to you!?

If those guys increase retention, it's a testament to how boring the game is playing solo, and how bad people are at the go-out-and-find-fun. And/or how bad Aura is at driving that point home: the stuff to do presented on a silver platter (mining, missions) gets stale really fast if you do it alone.

Why do you play it then? You are obviously some form of paying customer or you wouldn't be posting here.

I honestly don't get it, it's really like people who post here want some (boring as hell) happy happy sunshine game with no bad guys. Bad guys are what make the story, and in this game they are what gives real (ie "above ingame wealth") value to the experience. They exist (from my pov) to be outsmarted. Ruining a gankers day by surviving is gameplay too. Running the **** away (while still possessing the loot) is a skill.

It's almost as if many of you don't want to actually play a game.