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Because verifying files uses bandwidth......

It depends on how it's implemented, and whether or not that implementation is correct. If during verification it thought it was finding files or resources that were out-of-date or missing, it might very well be downloading them.

It's hard to tell from the outside with no access to the code, but there are a lot of ways to get functionality like this wrong.

SIr or Madam, ? As far as your statement to using a scanning tool and parity logic... huh? You are over complicating it. The launcher got hung on the very first file it tried to verify ....why because it was in use by the game EXE. So it went into a loop thinking the file was bad or couldnt be deleted/replaced (my assumption) so yes it was trying to download.The launcher said it was verifying. It's real simple to check your bandwidth usage if you have a baseline it's called .... wait for it.... Windows Task manager! It's so advanced and has so, sooo much parity logic stuffs !!! In all fairness the log is huge and has 30-40k lines stating some variation of :

"C:/ProgramData/CCP/EVE/SharedCache//ResFiles/de/dec35e7da6b7aafe_2f17b3e9c4357fc4062f504bea11a017"
2016-09-10T17:27:09.295Z default debug Couldn't delete"

I think you just like to pick at the wound that was my destroyed soul, I mean FACTION FIT CRUSIER. But tanks for the debate/argument it inspired me to read a 4 megabyte txt file at 2am. sadly the software launcher is still not ready to stand on its own.

P.s I use a Cisco enterprise router 3 generations newer than any equipment comcast has. (because it was free)

if a file is in use its locked and inaccessible to outside programs in this case the launcher in about 99% of all cases... you are missing the point again... The G-damn launcher did not know the client was running = loss of ship


Why I don't set up Qos on Cisco router for my wow/eve/porn computer? ...Because its Cisco IOS ! I like you, I really do but stop talking now.

When software errors are involved, there are any number of possible behaviors that could be occurring that manifest as a particular set of symptoms. Many of them won't make sense until one identifies the root cause(s).

It's not our responsibility as customers to come up with explanations that completely make sense. That's the duty of CCP, as well as to ship software that actually works reliably. Stop trying to blame the customer for CCP's failures and general incompetence.

I don't thong th-thong thong thong no but I know a router with no QoS functionality is a bad router

Or maybe you just don't know how to configure it. Probably more likely if it cost that much.

Your assumptions make no sense, inability to delete a file would not trigger any downloading, inability to FIND a file might

Assuming that 'it's all broked ' can just end up in infinite possibilities. Maybe the office cat walked over the keyboard during bug testing. Have you ever heard of the phrase: " when you hear hooves, think horses not zebras"?

Very relevant in the world of any profession that requires any kind of diagnosis, network engineering falling well within that category.

Tsukino Stareine

It seems that you have a considerable amount of Network Engineering knowledge and skill. While I am not as skilled as you appear to be, I am able to follow your comments. You may well be in a niche minority within this community. The advanced skills you demonstrate, the vast majority of this group does not seem to have. I mean no offense to anyone here.

Suggesting that persons access and configure or even "...get a better router!" implies that your audience is as proficient both technically and financially as you seem to be. That does not appear to be the case.

Wether players have the skills or not, we as the end user/consumer should not have to make fixes to accommodate a product or service we purchase (or subscribe to). We deserve a complete and working product. It is in CCPs best financial interest to provide and maintain a working product and maintain at least a generation of legacy compatibility to bring existing clients along.

Issues here are an array of legacy problems, configuration problems, hardware inadequacies and others. With no exe file as an alternate entry, those who are experiencing launcher problems will simply be shut out of the game during times of launcher failure.

I don't imagine it will take very many launcher failures to cause un-subbing.

I personally am very fortunate to have a mid level computer system, a fiber connection and almost no problems with the launcher. I will easily be able to continue this game. As it turns out, most of my corp is having success with the launcher too.

I think it is critical to the health of EvE to bring along as many as possible. Deleting the exe file now will simply exclude many from playing.

Thank you for sharing your experience and advice with us. Those who have skills comparable to you can capitalize on the information you provide.

There is an art to being passive aggressive and you sir have yet much to learn in its ways.

The 'get a better router!' I thought was clearly a joke, I do in fact work with Cisco routers on a daily basis and while not an expert can definitely tell you that most if not all have some kind of QoS functionality available to them. I only responded in such a way to one particular person because Mr CCNA stepped up to the plate. Of course I would not ask a regular person to crack into firmware of a router.

As to the rest of your post, I reiterate: CCP has no obligation to continue to support legacy and fringe systems. It does not make economic sense. They in fact have done more to make this game compatible than any other company I have ever had the misfortune to part my money with. Most companies just update their minimum requirements and tell you to shove it.

Keeping your equipment functioning and up to date is your OWN responsibility, can you seriously ask developers to somehow cover the situation where someone has not updated their video drivers in over a year in their coding? Of course not. The developers have an outstanding amount of resources available to them to cover as much as they possibly can, but it's not going to catch everyone. That's just cold harsh truth.

While I agree with you that having as many people able to log in to the game as possible is a good thing, you have failed to see the other side of this which is the fact that to even keep this game alive you need to be efficient with how you distribute your resources. Having tech support pick up tons of service tickets all about problems on decade old machines and unofficial ways of logging on is a waste of time and money in the long term.

Standardising platforms allows huge cost savings which can be then diverted into other MUCH more important areas of the game, like more content and improving the interface or CREST or any number of things that will make the game much better without being shackled to a 3rd party multi boxing program that CCP neither has control or influence on.

All in all I think people having problems with their launcher, most of it is PEBKAC with a few genuine instances where something may be up.

I wasn't suggesting anyone else do that, just you because you're capable of it.

Also that QoS sure would have helped you not lose that billion isk whatever right ;)?

Maybe that squirrel is secretly a cyborg and that anti tank gun might not be such a bad idea

Cool this means its time to quit to eve once and for all. Bye 13 accounts and I dont even have to wait for the next ****** up game breaking patch in November.

On to the next game.