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Alpha clones and industrial haulers

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Rapscallion Jones
Omnibus Solutions
#1 - 2016-09-02 18:56:11 UTC
It's obvious alpha clones are already a fait accompli, so let's address a glaring issue in a single ship class: specialized haulers.

When the tech 1 industrials were rebalanced they took what was an obviously half-baked ship class and turned them into something useful, particularly the Gallente industrials. But this leaves our alpha clones brethren with a problem, if they want access to the most useful haulers they will be forced to choose the Gallente race. This in itself isn't a huge issue but it is very unbalanced racially.

I propose one of two solutions:

1. Create ship models for each of the races that are missing the specialized haulers. That would be 4 for Amarr and Caldari, 3 for the Minmatar and 1 for the Gallente.

Or:

2. Take all of the existing specialized industrial ships, give them to a micro-faction (I'm thinking Interbus, ORE or Secure Commerce Commission) and grant all races the ability to fly these ships with the training of their radial industrial skill.

While either of these solutions would work I believe the second would be easiest to implement. Wadaya think?
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2 - 2016-09-02 19:01:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
No one is limited to just one alpha clone.

If someone wants to play Amarr because they like lasers or something, then they can easily roll an alpha as a Gallente for the hauling.
Solecist Project
#3 - 2016-09-02 19:05:02 UTC
why didn't ccp make a comments thread for their devblog?

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Rapscallion Jones
Omnibus Solutions
#4 - 2016-09-02 19:07:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Rapscallion Jones
Ugh
Scipio Artelius wrote:
No one is limited to just one alpha clone.


Exactly this!

There will be an unnecessary increase of Gallente charcters that are made only to gain access to their haulers. Remember everyone is locked in to their racial industrial ship, so the only option is to roll another character. Either of my proposed solutions would reduce this to a degree.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#5 - 2016-09-02 19:07:53 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
why didn't ccp make a comments thread for their devblog?

Becuse they tend to screw up anything regarding communication?

Remove standings and insurance.
Rapscallion Jones
Omnibus Solutions
#6 - 2016-09-02 19:09:27 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
why didn't ccp make a comments thread for their devblog?


They did, and that thing is a thread naught the Goons would be proud of. Any idea presented there will be lost in the posturing that it had devolved into.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#7 - 2016-09-02 19:10:08 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
f someone wants to play Amarr because they like lasers or something, then they can easily roll an alpha as a Gallente for the hauling.

Now we need to start some sort of movement against the racial discrimination of alpha clones.

Remove standings and insurance.
Solecist Project
#8 - 2016-09-02 19:11:38 UTC
Rapscallion Jones wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
why didn't ccp make a comments thread for their devblog?


They did, and that thing is a thread naught the Goons would be proud of. Any idea presented there will be lost in the posturing that it had devolved into.

You look like a german Cpt. Picard.

That's too awesome!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Rapscallion Jones
Omnibus Solutions
#9 - 2016-09-02 19:15:11 UTC
Very well then, Mister Fozzie make it so!
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#10 - 2016-09-02 19:15:45 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Rapscallion Jones wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
why didn't ccp make a comments thread for their devblog?


They did, and that thing is a thread naught the Goons would be proud of. Any idea presented there will be lost in the posturing that it had devolved into.

You look like a german Cpt. Picard.

That's too awesome!

Oh well. My keyboard and monitor needed cleaning anyway.

Remove standings and insurance.
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#11 - 2016-09-02 19:19:00 UTC
more haulers for minmitar

#MinmitarLivesMatter
Solecist Project
#12 - 2016-09-02 19:23:19 UTC
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Rapscallion Jones wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
why didn't ccp make a comments thread for their devblog?


They did, and that thing is a thread naught the Goons would be proud of. Any idea presented there will be lost in the posturing that it had devolved into.

You look like a german Cpt. Picard.

That's too awesome!

Oh well. My keyboard and monitor needed cleaning anyway.

I honestly miss these moments ...
... when i spread coffee all over the screen. :D

Glad you had it. :D

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#13 - 2016-09-02 19:57:21 UTC
Gallente will be pretty OP in this regard. Then again, just read on #tweetfleet that Alpha's won't be able to do much PI other than whatever skill a brand new character starts with. It's going to be considered an Omega only thing.

@lunettelulu7
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#14 - 2016-09-02 20:08:25 UTC
Lulu Lunette wrote:
Gallente will be pretty OP in this regard. Then again, just read on #tweetfleet that Alpha's won't be able to do much PI other than whatever skill a brand new character starts with. It's going to be considered an Omega only thing.


you can manage one planet and a small installation. if your dedicated you can do a lot, but that means a crap load of alts and tons of carpol tunnel

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
The Leopardess
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2016-09-02 20:18:39 UTC
Rapscallion Jones wrote:
It's obvious alpha clones are already a fait accompli, so let's address a glaring issue in a single ship class: specialized haulers.

When the tech 1 industrials were rebalanced they took what was an obviously half-baked ship class and turned them into something useful, particularly the Gallente industrials. But this leaves our alpha clones brethren with a problem, if they want access to the most useful haulers they will be forced to choose the Gallente race. This in itself isn't a huge issue but it is very unbalanced racially.

I propose one of two solutions:

1. Create ship models for each of the races that are missing the specialized haulers. That would be 4 for Amarr and Caldari, 3 for the Minmatar and 1 for the Gallente.

Or:

2. Take all of the existing specialized industrial ships, give them to a micro-faction (I'm thinking Interbus, ORE or Secure Commerce Commission) and grant all races the ability to fly these ships with the training of their radial industrial skill.

While either of these solutions would work I believe the second would be easiest to implement. Wadaya think?



Its all a conspiracy from Falcon to make more Gallente babies!

龴ↀ◡ↀ龴
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#16 - 2016-09-02 20:31:13 UTC
Anyone using anything else than Nereus / Wreathe is doing it wrong.
Serene Repose
#17 - 2016-09-02 21:01:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
You mean the Catalyst alone won't be the motivation for this choice of Gallente? Shocked
I'm shocked. No. Really.

Rapscallion Jones wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
why didn't ccp make a comments thread for their devblog?
They did, and that thing is a thread naught the Goons would be proud of. Any idea presented there will be lost in the posturing that it had devolved into.
Accidents will happen.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#18 - 2016-09-02 21:44:05 UTC
Please use the existing feedback thread at this location instead of creating a new thread for the same topic. Thank you.

Thread closed.

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