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no alpha account exumers would just see a rise in botting in null sec.

This will going to end ás DUST 514.
In the begining we are going to see not new players but tons of new alphas belonging to omegas ingame, then some of that omegas will become alphas too, and in the meanwhile new players are the same, they come and they go faster then they came, after 2 years the alphas will vanish or CCP decides to end up with alphas like she did with DUST 514.

The problem is not and never was F2P, new players try the game and leave faster then they came because CCP allows that and promote that.
There are ways to prevent things like that, but CCP prefer not to face the reality and keep on the wrong way over and over again.

We will see what happens, time uses to be a good advicer, but CCP is like a broken clock, at least is right twice a day....

I can understand that even if Alpha accounts don't pay to upgrade to Omega, it will br a good thing to have more players in space.

But I can guarantee these Alpha toons will be farmed in low/null. Players who can survive and thrive long term in hostile space in Alpha limited toons will be exceptiom rather than norms, unless they are affiliated with existing eve bets.

So great, there may be 1,000 new Alpha toons venturing into hostile spaces, what do you think the existing Snaked Garmur pilots with faction gears will do to them? Insta lock Svipuls will eat them for breakfast. They may have taste of fun in the beginning especially they get to pew pew with other Alpha toons, but realistically, they will get pwned so hard on regular basis the fun will wear off.

I have come around to this way of thinking. Red safety gameplay is one of the unique features of eve and new players should be allowed to try it. Just limit concurrent alpha account logins.

Sure, but still goes against "CCP did not call it free to play". Otherwise they would print "eve introduces unlimited trial" headlines.

Whether the whole thing works, time will tell. Apparently though bait and switch is needed to promote eve now.

Also it blows their ammo early since, if (when) they do eventually go ~true~ free-to-play, they won't have the same media impact as now., but that's none of my business I guess.

This is only the beginning.

What will follow:

- Beta clone 5,000 AUR
- racial cross skill certificate 10,000 AUR
- fly a Battlecruiser for a week? 3,000 AUR
- T2 Weapon training certificate 15,000 AUR
- summon a NPC-Titan for 1 hour 5,000 AUR (this might go too far )

Enjoy.

I look forward to the influx of new players this change will bring! EVE University--along with the many other organizations in EVE dedicated to helping new players--will work hard to create positive learning experiences for these new Alpha players. There is a long-awaited change that will help us turn these Alphas into new Omegas:

Complete re-balancing the meta 1-4 modules that new Alpha players will need most.

Learning about meta modules is currently confusing for new players, partly because of the parallel systems of re-balanced and non-re-balanced modules, and partly because the names of non-re-balanced modules are much less intuitive than re-balanced ones. This makes it difficult for these players to know what to buy. The naming situation is particularly bad for small weapons, exactly the type of items that Alpha players will be most likely to buy. In addition, the market for some of these non-re-balanced weapons makes it such that the meta 4 variants are very expensive, and meta 3 variants are occasionally more expensive than Tech 2 versions. There is nothing inherently wrong with this market situation. But it does mean that, to make smart decisions, new players need to become familiar with the inconsistent system of meta naming and marketing--a system that CCP has said it is committed to simplify.

So, simplify it already.

So far, ALL of the problems I've described above have been solved in every module re-balance that CCP has executed. Naming has become more intuitive. The market for different meta items has relaxed (by and large). In spite of CCP's stated concerns about how to set stats on these re-balanced modules, none has broken the meta. I would argue that CCP has been extremely successful in its module re-balancing efforts so far, and has also learned a lot about how to do it right. Accelerate this process! I recommend that, along with the upcoming November changes, CCP finishes re-balancing Tech I meta weapons, and especially small and medium weapons that Alpha players will be most likely to buy.

But wait: Isn't that a ton of work I've just proposed? Involving thousands of stats on many hundreds of modules? How could CCP possibly justify the effort this would require, when so many more fundamental things about EVE need to be fixed?

Outsource the work of re-naming and re-statting weapons to private community committees.

Looking at the re-balance work that's been done so far, the changes look pretty straightforward. Yes, understanding the numbers requires familiarity with EVE, but not a Ph.D. in Astrophysics. I think we, the players, can do this. I recommend a CCP employee recruit a couple of reputable player volunteers to propose committees of senior players that can provide CCP with new module stats for modules that have not yet been re-balanced. Then, these committees could be charged with creating new tables of stats and module names, along with documentation of why these particular numbers are appropriate. Importantly, this would not be a public activity, and there would be no community input at this stage. The only goal would be to do the initial work of making up numbers and characteristics, so that CCP could then put it all in a DevBlog and elicit community feedback afterwards, just as they have with all the other module re-balance passes. CCP could also insert a level of anonymous peer review in the process, by having a different volunteer review and judge what each committee has come up with before it goes to CCP.

CCP would then be free to accept, reject or modify the work of any of these committees. What we are talking about is small-ball poker. The consequences of re-balancing meta 1-4 small turrets are so tiny that it would be appropriate to have community members do the grunt work. A CCP employee could even recruit a volunteer to create the framework for this whole process; the instructions could be as vague as "Hey, propose a committee of people that will eventually make a table of numbers for all meta 1-4 turrets that have Compact, Enduring, Scoped and Pinpoint variants. And keep it to yourself, okay?" And I think we could manage.

CCP wont do this as it would kill the need for pay accounts. Point of free and paid have been clearly explained. Think of it this way the cake is the paid accounts. But you want to make it less boring looking so you buy extra's to see and do a bit more.

I think this is a likely direction. But I don't see a major problem with these except for the last one of course. I'm assuming that subsequent clone levels would unlock new skills for training and use rather than grant trained skills.

Think of it like a pre-paid mobile phone plan vs a contract. They are just paying to unlock a chunk of training up front. And it would, of course, almost certainly be more expensive.

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