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Yes I am aware of the fact it is in the Devblog. The word 'currently' sounds as though they are open to changing their minds though which is why I am emphasising that they should not change their mind on this.

There are obvious reasons as to why CCP would want to allow extraction of any skills, but for reasons of this being easily exploitable (despite the some of the respondents on here not being to smart to figure this one out *shakes head*), I hope they don't go down this route as it will devalue SP.

This is a terrific idea - give old Omega's a few days/week to come back and try EvE again, then flop to the Alpha status. Could be something CCP does on a recuring basis to bring some of our old bro's back.

I agree on your last point but disagree on your first. At least 1 F2P account should be allowed on line per sub account, otherwise a sub account becomes a detriment. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. 1 F2P account likely wouldn't create any more havoc than normal and might balance out some of the multi-boxing issues that currently exist. It would also be incentive for the F2P players to get a sub account so they could multi-box.

In all fairness, I am representing my own self interest here as this is something *I'd* like to be available to me. So, full disclosure there.

SWTOR's woes weren't solely due to the free-to-play implementation. It was **** years before that.

A question I've seen asked once or twice here, but not answered: What happens to the referral system? Obviously you won't be getting a longer trial from it, but will there still be buddy links that award PLEX (or whatever we're going to use for Omega upgrades) when my friend subscribes? It would be nice to be able to toss some ISK the way of a friend, but I don't have the cash reserves to be handing out a bil to everyone who joins up.

I'd also like to see race-lock removed. I can't see much damage caused by letting an Amarrian fly a Caracal, but I can see newbeans getting frustrated by the inability to fly their alliance's doctrine ships because they chose 'the wrong race'. Horde for example uses almost no Amarrian ships in our doctrines, generally Caldari and some Minmatar for lighter stuff and Minmatar for heavier things, with Gallente ships generally recommended for ratting. If you choose the Amarr race, the only doctrine thing you can fly is the Crucifier, which aren't used much. I know that other alliances might have different doctrines, but the same problems probably apply to them too.

could you make it any more obvious how poorly the csm is treated by ccp

so with the ability to get to 5m sp, skill injector prices are going to crash as people can create a farm of 100 skillgoop bastards for free then only subscribe them to train + extract once its profitable

also, t1 production could not be more dead when you can scale t1 production jobs infinitely for free

So i heard about this on the news apps i follow earlier, got about 12 different texts from friends who knew i used to play and had to come see for myself. So it seems it is true, and i'm impressed.

Now i may be out of touch since i haven't played since early 2015 late 2014 but i think a stream of new characters joining the game is good, both for CCP and for many people here as well. My only real concern here though is the race restriction. I understand wanting to keep alphas out of pirate faction ships but for returning players such as myself it could prove an issue for a select few of us. ( or perhaps not so few, who am i to know? )

Now on to my point:

See when i started the game, knowing absolutely nothing years ago i choose the Caldari because i liked the way the ships looked ( Except the Blackbird Back then and the Condor ) and because i liked the sound of the faction, now years later i wound up specializing in Gallente and Amarr as well to the point now where i have more SP in Gallente related skills than i do in Caldari. ( More ships, More Drones SP, More Gunnery SP than missiles, Tank, etc. )

If i ever lapsed down to Alpha when things got slow for me again being locked out of ships such as the vexor would be frustrating since i can fly that much better than i can a caracal right now. Granted i have shy of 3 months to prepare, which i re-subbed for and am doing now, but for others who come back later and cannot make a skill queue now; who did the same thing i did it could be a rough edge that might keep some older players away from even the alpha stage to ease back into things. Not to mention brand-newbies but ill get into that in a sec

I would propose simply making the ships themselves require Alpha/Omega Status so players could still use a vexor or a caracal or an arbitrator if they chose Matari as their base race rather than sticking them in a faction they may no longer even fly. And at the same time as an Alpha i cant hop in a Cruor or whatever others i can fly without paying to access the ship like everyone in Omega status.

I get that its trying to restrict these clones to the 5Million SP range but restricting a new player like that could mean they put a lot of time into their pilot ( in terms of alphas not the long game for many of us 50/100m SP+ Accounts ), decide they like another faction more and then have to start all over if they dont want to subscribe yet which could be discouraging. then the older players such as myself like i already stated and so on. At least they should be able to sample each faction even if its only up to cruisers with T1 fits like the list seems to suggest is the case.

Just my 2 cents, now anyways back to figuring out the better part of 2 years of patch notes 07

Nice idea.
I think fitting skills - akin to the learning skills of old they're a bit annoying - should be a little less restricted. Getting the basic ones to V and AWU to 3 should help. This is from the perspective of someone routinely supplying ships to people. There is little more annoying than having fits with a reasonable wiggle room not work for some folks.
It can all be planned and prepared for and while there need to be restrictions and something to unlock with a sub, the focus should be on trying to hook people on shiny things they want to have (positive aspects) and not on making negative things go away.

I think they know what they are doing...






they do know what they are doing right?