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[ARC] Press Release: Zero Casualty Hive Op
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Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#101 - 2016-08-22 21:51:29 UTC
Kaaeliaa wrote:
I would have to say that today was our smoothest Hive penetration yet, or at least that I've personally seen.

Many thanks to ARC's coordinators and fleet commanders.
Thank you! Though, personally I found it boring. It's like all the Drifters are hiding from me now. The Seekers report that it's Alizabeth and Morwen and all the Drifters say "Oh $#!&" and scatter.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Tyrukko Sakala
Guri Raiders
#102 - 2016-08-22 21:54:35 UTC
Attempting to destroy something out of hate or ego often ensures that it will be preserved and disseminated forever. As capsuleers we would be wise to remember this.

Guri Raiders Pirate // Don't want to get your hands dirty? Drop a line.
Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#103 - 2016-08-22 22:40:20 UTC
Being, at least, acquainted with the people responsible for organizing and running these operations, implying they're driven by ego is dangerously close to being insulting.

"Do not lift the veil. Do not show the door. Do not split the dream."
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#104 - 2016-08-22 22:42:28 UTC
As far as hate goes--I have that in copious quantities when it comes to the Drifters.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Tyrukko Sakala
Guri Raiders
#105 - 2016-08-22 23:41:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyrukko Sakala
Kaaeliaa wrote:
Being, at least, acquainted with the people responsible for organizing and running these operations, implying they're driven by ego is dangerously close to being insulting.


The Arataka Research Consortium leadership is aware that I hold them in the highest regard. The statement I made was broad, some might say vague, though if one finds it offense I apologize for turning the mirror as it were.

Guri Raiders Pirate // Don't want to get your hands dirty? Drop a line.
Slayer Liberator
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#106 - 2016-08-23 00:23:26 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
As far as hate goes--I have that in copious quantities when it comes to the Drifters.

Well I am apathetic towards the drifters but the isk to be made motivates me to fight them that is the only reason I would fight them and likely a huge reason many people fight them I have a simple question If there was no profit to be made from drifters does anyone think that there would nearly as many capsuleers helping you?
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2016-08-23 01:07:22 UTC
Slayer Liberator wrote:
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
As far as hate goes--I have that in copious quantities when it comes to the Drifters.

Well I am apathetic towards the drifters but the isk to be made motivates me to fight them that is the only reason I would fight them and likely a huge reason many people fight them I have a simple question If there was no profit to be made from drifters does anyone think that there would nearly as many capsuleers helping you?


If it weren't for my negative standing with the Amarr and Caldari I will gladly join up just so I can stick salvagers up those wrecks to look for salvageable technology later.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#108 - 2016-08-23 02:00:59 UTC
Slayer Liberator wrote:
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
As far as hate goes--I have that in copious quantities when it comes to the Drifters.

Well I am apathetic towards the drifters but the isk to be made motivates me to fight them that is the only reason I would fight them and likely a huge reason many people fight them I have a simple question If there was no profit to be made from drifters does anyone think that there would nearly as many capsuleers helping you?

These operations have never been particularly profitable compared to most alternatives, and likely will not be for a long time, if ever.

Most people are flying with us simply because they feel it's the right thing to do. Or because it's something new and interesting for them, and we are quite literally the only organization running such operations. But very few involved are solely interested in profits, and even those who ask seem to not mind the lack of significant compensation for the time and effort involved.

Elmund Egivand wrote:
If it weren't for my negative standing with the Amarr and Caldari I will gladly join up just so I can stick salvagers up those wrecks to look for salvageable technology later.

Honestly, I'd expect circadian rhythms to be your biggest barrier to participation, not standings. Standings are absolutely not a barrier unless you turn them into one through sheer force of your own willpower. Just ask Khaprice - she flies with us on the regular, despite actively serving in the TLF. She has absolutely no issues handling the naval and police patrols, and I can't see why you would either.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#109 - 2016-08-23 03:18:53 UTC
Morwen Lagann wrote:


Elmund Egivand wrote:
If it weren't for my negative standing with the Amarr and Caldari I will gladly join up just so I can stick salvagers up those wrecks to look for salvageable technology later.

Honestly, I'd expect circadian rhythms to be your biggest barrier to participation, not standings. Standings are absolutely not a barrier unless you turn them into one through sheer force of your own willpower. Just ask Khaprice - she flies with us on the regular, despite actively serving in the TLF. She has absolutely no issues handling the naval and police patrols, and I can't see why you would either.


If I recall in one of my old correspondence with Ms. Priano regarding smashing and grabbing Drifter hives, my position within the Gallente Militia was an impediment in getting a spot in the ops, due to the Amarr and Caldari militia members being in the op fleet and, admittedly, I assume she would also be operating in Amarr or Caldari high sec, where I will be shot on sight.

Maybe I ask again.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#110 - 2016-08-23 03:30:34 UTC
If you are coming with us to kill Drifters, no one in the fleet will shoot at you. I cannot make promises for pilots not in my fleet.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#111 - 2016-08-23 03:32:56 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
If you are coming with us to kill Drifters, no one in the fleet will shoot at you. I cannot make promises for pilots not in my fleet.


Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#112 - 2016-08-23 03:41:31 UTC
Join the channel Consortium Operations.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#113 - 2016-08-23 04:25:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
[Redacted]

I, Diana Kim, Strike Cmdr. of Caldari State, will not field any charges of treason against Evocatus Alizabeth over this matter.
My previous statement was a misundertsanding and has been done in haste.

Excuse me for misleading information.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#114 - 2016-08-23 05:27:26 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
If I recall in one of my old correspondence with Ms. Priano regarding smashing and grabbing Drifter hives, my position within the Gallente Militia was an impediment in getting a spot in the ops, due to the Amarr and Caldari militia members being in the op fleet and, admittedly, I assume she would also be operating in Amarr or Caldari high sec, where I will be shot on sight.

Maybe I ask again.


You don't need to ask Makoto. I will personally tell you, as a Coordinator, that it is only as much of an impediment as you allow it to be.

While the fleet will not actively defend you from wartargets due to Crimewatch restrictions, nobody in the fleet will engage you without your explicitly-given permission. If they do, then they put their future attendance on ops at risk. We've had pilots from both the 24th and the TLF at the same time, as well as the Protectorate. The only time we've permitted the fleet to fire on other members is when they have explicitly been asked to by the pilot being fired at - usually because they do not feel like trekking home in a capsule and would rather take the so-called "pod express."

Basically, you're on your own getting from staging to the entry location (which we provide in fleet, and in some cases can move a ship for you) and then from there into the wormhole. Aside from that, you're part of the fleet and get all of the associated benefits.

As noted, there is a channel you can join via the Neocom, and a mailing list by the same name. We announce operations there.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#115 - 2016-08-23 05:36:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Alizabeth Vea
Morwen Lagann wrote:
The only time we've permitted the fleet to fire on other members is when they have explicitly been asked to by the pilot being fired at - usually because they do not feel like trekking home in a capsule and would rather take the so-called "pod express."
Though if someone pipes the doomsday sound through the comms again, there might just be a commissaring.

Mr. Egivand, the next operation is at 0200 on the 27th. Late Friday night/early Saturday morning operation. I hope you can make it.

Diana Kim wrote:
Ahh, Alizabeth Vea.
The one who was disgracing both Caldari State and Amarr Empire with her foul words in IGS chat channel, is now inviting Feds to her operations.

I should have learned it faster about her true nature, now I see why she was attacking Caldari officers out of blue. Her treason to the Empire is now obvious.
Yes, an Amarr should never invite a 'Fed' to anything.

Wait a minute. Empress Jamyl's funeral in Dam-Torsad was attended by the President of the Gallente Federation.

Go ahead. Accuse the Chamberlain of being a traitor to the Empire.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#116 - 2016-08-23 06:46:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Morwen Lagann wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
If I recall in one of my old correspondence with Ms. Priano regarding smashing and grabbing Drifter hives, my position within the Gallente Militia was an impediment in getting a spot in the ops, due to the Amarr and Caldari militia members being in the op fleet and, admittedly, I assume she would also be operating in Amarr or Caldari high sec, where I will be shot on sight.

Maybe I ask again.


You don't need to ask Makoto. I will personally tell you, as a Coordinator, that it is only as much of an impediment as you allow it to be.

While the fleet will not actively defend you from wartargets due to Crimewatch restrictions, nobody in the fleet will engage you without your explicitly-given permission. If they do, then they put their future attendance on ops at risk. We've had pilots from both the 24th and the TLF at the same time, as well as the Protectorate. The only time we've permitted the fleet to fire on other members is when they have explicitly been asked to by the pilot being fired at - usually because they do not feel like trekking home in a capsule and would rather take the so-called "pod express."

Basically, you're on your own getting from staging to the entry location (which we provide in fleet, and in some cases can move a ship for you) and then from there into the wormhole. Aside from that, you're part of the fleet and get all of the associated benefits.

As noted, there is a channel you can join via the Neocom, and a mailing list by the same name. We announce operations there.


Gotcha, I will do exactly that and see what I can do to join up. Doctrine ships and warchests and such, standard things.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#117 - 2016-08-23 06:59:50 UTC
We'll expect you, then.

Standard ships for the doctrine are fairly easy on the wallet, and we do provide SRP for losses of ships that are part of the doctrine if they occur during a fleet. Feel free to mail me directly if you have any questions not answered by the channel's MOTD.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#118 - 2016-08-23 21:49:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
Morwen Lagann wrote:
That Uppity FDU Pilot wrote:
If I recall in one of my old correspondence with Ms. Priano regarding smashing and grabbing Drifter hives, my position within the Gallente Militia was an impediment in getting a spot in the ops, due to the Amarr and Caldari militia members being in the op fleet and, admittedly, I assume she would also be operating in Amarr or Caldari high sec, where I will be shot on sight.

Maybe I ask again.


You don't need to ask Makoto. I will personally tell you, as a Coordinator, that it is only as much of an impediment as you allow it to be.


It's in a wormhole. Pucker factor is quite high, since everybody is a legal target of everybody else but in both the Ops I've attended manners has kept things civil. Basically, we're all guests, FC is the host and for me, personally, firing on something the FC doesn't tell me to fire on feels just... weird.

Still you're the one with the poor taste to be in the FDU....

All joking aside, your biggest issue is likely to be the local uniforms, who won't take kindly to you loitering in the system where the entrance is, waiting for the order to enter.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#119 - 2016-08-24 01:23:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:

It's in a wormhole. Pucker factor is quite high, since everybody is a legal target of everybody else but in both the Ops I've attended manners has kept things civil. Basically, we're all guests, FC is the host and for me, personally, firing on something the FC doesn't tell me to fire on feels just... weird.

Still you're the one with the poor taste to be in the FDU....

All joking aside, your biggest issue is likely to be the local uniforms, who won't take kindly to you loitering in the system where the entrance is, waiting for the order to enter.


Mr. Tuulinen, you have messed up the quotation system.

Yes, my biggest issue is with the local patrols. However, I was advised that a system to get to undock and bugger off quickly before the patrols could respond was already in place. From the looks on the methodology, it seems that means no undocking, align on command with the pace of a drunkard trying to walk the straight line then enter warp. Situations like that will get my ship pointed and shot at by the local authorities before I can do anything useful.

This hopefully will solve my quibble with the local authorities.

I kept telling people that green is a terrible colour. I tried.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#120 - 2016-08-24 14:27:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Mr. Tuulinen, you have messed up the quotation system.

Yes, my biggest issue is with the local patrols. However, I was advised that a system to get to undock and bugger off quickly before the patrols could respond was already in place. From the looks on the methodology, it seems that means no undocking, align on command with the pace of a drunkard trying to walk the straight line then enter warp. Situations like that will get my ship pointed and shot at by the local authorities before I can do anything useful.

This hopefully will solve my quibble with the local authorities.

I kept telling people that green is a terrible colour. I tried.


I'll look forward to seeing you in fleet, Mr. Egivand.

The Hives and Nexuses are something every pilot should see.