EVE General Discussion

Anyone in here suggesting any new mechanics or npc bullshit completely misses the point ...
... and should be put into spacetar and spacefeathers.

Anyone asking CCP to change things as much, considering their track record.


Every single one who isn't willing to do anything himself ...
... and who as usual wants tk give "helpful ideas" to ccp is exactly a part of the problem.

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Oh, what can the players do?


Tell noobs to play something else and not be food for the easy kill community.

Make your first character free up to 5m skill points.
Let them get hooked and buy injectors.

hey op. if you wanna work together send me a mail.

most people here are just too much forum warrior to ever actually do anything that´s not selfish.

and maybe report the trolls.

hey op. if you wanna work together send me a mail.

Removed a political comment. -ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

and maybe report the progressives.

sadly ccp nerfed most possibilities for social interaction and conflict in highsec ...
... where also all the noobs start to play.

they also pushed "be lawfull" into the minds of new players by adding a security button and suspect status.

inb4 people not being able to think about it and me having to explain it in detail...

LOL this is the game. it's always been this way.

I always get the feeling that the people who talk about 'relaxing' in the game would also prefer to watch a movie about grass growing.

CCP can help to bring more players into EVE.

While the company is spending big money on innovative technologies like VR, more incentive can be given to employees that maintaining the cash cow of the company. The cash cow can be more productive for years ahead. These employees are as important as the developers that creating cutting-edge technological products. Games are highly competitive businesses. Maintaining a loyal player base is not an easy task. Developer's enthusiasm needs accompanying with material rewards to maximize effectiveness. For example, take the yearly average PCU for the past year as a baseline. If the next yearly average PCU does not drop below a certain tolerance of that baseline, bonus should be given to the employees for doing a great job for maintaining positive cash flow for the company. If the average PCU exceeds that of the past year, bigger bonus should be given. The higher this yearly average PCU that exceeded that of the past year, the more bonus should be given. The bonus system needs to be transparent so that the developers know clearly they will be rewarded for their hard working.

First, I have nothing to do with CODE. I dont even live in empire and have spent little of my nearly a decade of playing there.
Second, a sample size of 80,000 UNIQUE accounts in a game that has in the neighbor of 500,000 accounts is a good sample size.
Third, just because you want something to be true doesnt make it true.

TL;DR = Learn 2 Play.

Games generally have a high turnover rate. Especially games in which you do not have to invest anything into starting out. People give games more of a chance if they had to buy the game before trying it, because they invested in it. People quit playing games for a lot of reasons. " i got killed by a player" in a game that is known and advertised as a pvp game with large fleet battles is not a common one. Most people come into Eve expecting they might get killed by other players.

How do people manage to get killed doing pve in this game? Because they are to lazy to learn the game mechanics, change their habits or situation a little bit, fit their ship properly( you know how many people run around in paper bags with billions in plexes and injectors? Ironically you can use these items remotely, you never have to take them out of the dock), or a myriad of other little things that will prevent them from becoming a KM.

I havent been killed doing PVE in TWO(2) YEARS. The last time i was killed was because i thought i clicked dock on a noctis, didnt apparently, so it never warped and i left the pc for 20 min after i clicked it without confirming i actually warped. I haul stuff in indies in H/L/N. I do sites in H/L/N, I kill rats in H/L/N. I huff gas in null/w space. I am literally ratting in a null pipe right now 2 jumps from an enemy stronghold and they love to pvp, roam, camp, and hotdrop. Been ratting this spot for a few days now. Reds come through regularly a couple times an hour.

So am i special snowflake? Yep.I learned from every single death of what not to do and then stopped doing it. But, people rather come on the forums and whine about deccers and CODE and how they cant mine or run missions or rat and how those groups are ruining the game. If you put your hand in a fire, do you whine about how its burning and someone needs to put it out? Or do you take your hand out of the fire? Why do you change your behavior when you play games? If CODE and deccers are bothering you...move to null. wardecs dont matter and code doesnt go to null. Its actually safer to mine in null than it is to mine in empire and it pays better.

People rather whine about their situation than make one small change to fix it even when whining takes ten times the effort. People rather whine about a problem, rather than learn how to resolve it. And people want to act like their problem is a massive problem for all players when it really isnt.

Edit to add: My alliance is wardecced by at least 1( usually 2 or 3) corps/alliances at a time pretty much 24/7/365. THAT doesnt prevent me from doing things in empire either.