EVE General Discussion

We were shown the new Barges, which I must say, look awesome.
However, it is clear that they are going to be reworked in a big way, number of strip miners, which probably means the bonus's are going to change, along with other things.
Where is the info on this?

lol. this is like the third time bardges have been reworked since I been here.

but the reason the new order exists still hasn't been addressed.

Its not the damn ships that need overhauling. Its mining itself.

It needs to be made more interactive.

So boters can be detected and addressed.

pitiful waste of our money chasing this ship rework.

I noted the second strip miner on the Skiff and Procurer which is a good thing, I hope they do not go with the whining by the gankers on the tanks of the Skiff and Produrer but adjust the tanks of the other ships to be more in line with the Skiff and Procurer.

I currently only mine at the moment because I can sit in a ship that is hard to kill and only the most dedicated scum bag with freinds has a chance to kill me. The calculation has to be Kusion + 3 dual boxers at least which is where a useful Skiffs is now.

I don't see why the barges need to be changed at all given they were tiericided successfully only recently. Maybe the Covetor / Retriever class barges could do with a little increase in EHP so they can't be ganked by a lone catalyst, but other than that the fundamental concept that was laid out in the original tiericide is fine.

But did you also see the 2 lasers on the hulk?

I do not expect the barges yields and tanks to change all that much.

The role bonuses may be tossed out and the barge skill levels reworked to result in largely the same ships we have now.

The teircide was a disaster. The skiff walked away with a battleship level tank with nothing fitted, you can't alter the ore holds, the covetor has no slots let alone fitting room, the skiff mines close to what a hulk can pull which means flying anything other than a skiff is pointless. These ships are pre fitted, poorly balanced against eachother and offer near no options.

I mean... isn't it possible that the options are crap or crap

crap > crap

It's because CCP insists on keeping 3 mining barges, rather than turning the other two hulls into other ORE ships, like the ORE Drone combat cruiser and the ORE hauler (Which can have some ability to fit mining equipment also but no bonuses to it so they can do something while on grid waiting).

And then like you said, you give them slot/pg/cpu to fit things (My level would be the same as the zealot adjusted for the strip miner needs vs medium turret needs, or just make sure strip miners take equivalent PG & CPU). Hard cap strip miner number means you can give them utility slots even without instantly cramming another strip miner in, and we know it can be done because of command ships. Enough cargo hold that cargo extenders give meaningful space, but at the cost of not fitting other things in the lows. And hey presto, we now have 1 barge that can be fitted to do the job of any of the current three. And 2 other hulls suitable for use for other purposes. Fitting choices now replace hard baked hulls.

Generalize much....to make yourself look really, really cool and them to look like ditzy fools? Huh?