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(Ghost) Fitting Window; More relevant stats, less gumpf

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Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#221 - 2016-06-02 15:32:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Caviar Liberta
Dispex wrote:
Please CCP make EFT unnecessary after you implemented this feature. I don't like to export/import data files. I'd like to have it instantly in the client.

Thanks Bear


It's not the importing and exporting of files that's the issue. It's the idea that someone had to development a 3rd party application to do something you would have thought should have been part of the game in the first place. Sure there's the test server but then that's still taking you away from the live server game client.
HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#222 - 2016-06-26 18:00:38 UTC
There are so damn many features that can go into this....

Draw a line, give us the damn ghost fitting window and integrate more features later.
In the meantime people could be enjoying this feature while you guys take three years doing this just because you want fireworks when it's released.

Get it done already.
The Bigpuns
United Standings Improvement Agency
#223 - 2016-06-29 09:08:27 UTC
HeXxploiT wrote:
There are so damn many features that can go into this....

Draw a line, give us the damn ghost fitting window and integrate more features later.
In the meantime people could be enjoying this feature while you guys take three years doing this just because you want fireworks when it's released.

Get it done already.


Yep.
Jai Blaze
Honor Forge
Joint Operation Involving Nobodys
#224 - 2016-08-08 04:07:39 UTC
Come on already, this thread was posted 2015-03-24!

Don't let this be one of those features that just goes by the wayside and never gets released! What on earth could be causing it to take so long?!
Khan Wrenth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#225 - 2016-08-08 07:38:33 UTC
Jai Blaze wrote:
Come on already, this thread was posted 2015-03-24!

Don't let this be one of those features that just goes by the wayside and never gets released! What on earth could be causing it to take so long?!

Just guessing, but probably dev time being re-prioritized elsewhere. Citadels, contracts, Serpentis event, capital rebalance, etc. There's a difference between huge things that grab people's attention and draw people back into the game, and stuff that everybody sees and has a mild appreciation for. Dev time is limited, so if you have something of a big deal coming up, it makes sense to divert resources to it.

Unfortunately it seems like there's always something else that comes up. A better fitting window than what we have now, and EvEmon-like character planner, both should have launched *with* the game back in 1.0, in my opinion.

Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#226 - 2016-08-08 07:39:10 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Dispex wrote:
Please CCP make EFT unnecessary after you implemented this feature. I don't like to export/import data files. I'd like to have it instantly in the client.

Thanks Bear


It's not the importing and exporting of files that's the issue. It's the idea that someone had to development a 3rd party application to do something you would have thought should have been part of the game in the first place. Sure there's the test server but then that's still taking you away from the live server game client.

The problem will be that CCP will screw it up with cinematics, animations, useless clutter and lack of information and functionalities. It will not be as easily usable and clearly readable as Pyfa or EFT are, that is for sure.

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
Poranius Fisc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#227 - 2016-08-12 18:55:37 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Dispex wrote:
Please CCP make EFT unnecessary after you implemented this feature. I don't like to export/import data files. I'd like to have it instantly in the client.

Thanks Bear


It's not the importing and exporting of files that's the issue. It's the idea that someone had to development a 3rd party application to do something you would have thought should have been part of the game in the first place. Sure there's the test server but then that's still taking you away from the live server game client.

The problem will be that CCP will screw it up with cinematics, animations, useless clutter and lack of information and functionalities. It will not be as easily usable and clearly readable as Pyfa or EFT are, that is for sure.

Nah. Im cool with all that as long as it comes out.
Nelly Galbatha
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#228 - 2016-08-17 07:21:07 UTC
Do they even mention anything on how updated the project is?
Jai Blaze
Honor Forge
Joint Operation Involving Nobodys
#229 - 2016-08-17 23:27:18 UTC
Zilch. They are being famously silent on the whole matter.
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#230 - 2016-08-18 01:26:43 UTC
Its moving towards the Soon TM column.

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
Darkblad
#231 - 2016-08-18 14:21:44 UTC
Well, there's this tooltip entry

Lol

NPE-ISD-Übersetzt!
Lugh Crow-Slave
#232 - 2016-08-21 02:13:05 UTC
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
Its moving towards the Soon TM column.



well it is called "ghost" fitting

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Jai Blaze
Honor Forge
Joint Operation Involving Nobodys
#233 - 2016-08-21 09:32:43 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:

well it is called "ghost" fitting
May as well have been posted on 05/01...

Haha CCP, you got us again, tricked us into trusting you could deliverRoll, jokes on us
Geronimo McVain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#234 - 2016-08-23 07:21:19 UTC
I've got confirmation from CSM Steve Ronuken that they are actively working on it but no date, sorry folks.
Jai Blaze
Honor Forge
Joint Operation Involving Nobodys
#235 - 2016-08-23 11:57:24 UTC
So they're slow delivering and terrible with customer communications. Usually a company could get away with one or the other, not both.
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#236 - 2016-08-28 09:00:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Linus Gorp
Khan Wrenth wrote:
Unfortunately it seems like there's always something else that comes up. A better fitting window than what we have now, and EvEmon-like character planner, both should have launched *with* the game back in 1.0, in my opinion.

Ahahahhahahaha.. Should have seen what we *actually* had when EVE was released. It sure wasn't a functional game.


Jai Blaze wrote:
So they're slow delivering and terrible with customer communications. Usually a company could get away with one or the other, not both.

EVE has no competition. There's no other game out there that fills the same niche. We can't move on to something else, even if want to, and CCP knows that.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
TheTennant
Third Attention
#237 - 2016-09-13 11:15:52 UTC
what irritates me the most is that CCP don't even care enough to spend a few seconds to let us know if it is progressing or cancelled or anything. They know this thread is here. How pathetic.
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#238 - 2016-09-13 23:11:50 UTC
TheTennant wrote:
what irritates me the most is that CCP don't even care enough to spend a few seconds to let us know if it is progressing or cancelled or anything. They know this thread is here. How pathetic.

Oops, sorryWhat? to be honest I forgot about this thread, been too busy working on Ghostfitting Big smile
It's progressing rather nicely, although it's not our top priority, but you can expect to see more info on it Soon™(actually hopefully next week)Smile

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#239 - 2016-09-13 23:22:21 UTC
By Jupiter, that's fabulous news!

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#240 - 2016-09-14 21:18:01 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
TheTennant wrote:
what irritates me the most is that CCP don't even care enough to spend a few seconds to let us know if it is progressing or cancelled or anything. They know this thread is here. How pathetic.

Oops, sorryWhat? to be honest I forgot about this thread, been too busy working on Ghostfitting Big smile
It's progressing rather nicely, although it's not our top priority, but you can expect to see more info on it Soon™(actually hopefully next week)Smile


Funny I thought this thread was about Ghostfitting.