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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#21 - 2016-07-26 16:32:45 UTC
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Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#22 - 2016-07-26 20:19:57 UTC
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Posting lossmails is against the rules


Wait, this is a real thing ?
What pinhead wrote that one up ?

Eve online is :

A) mining simulator B) glorified chatroom C) spreadsheets online

D) CCP Games Pay to Win at skill leveling, with instant gratification

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Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#23 - 2016-07-26 20:30:24 UTC
227 accounts to farm injectors o.O

Broken feature is broken.

A signature :o
David Therman
#24 - 2016-07-26 20:48:50 UTC
Freelancer117 wrote:
Quote:
Posting lossmails is against the rules


Wait, this is a real thing ?
What pinhead wrote that one up ?


Well, a lossmail is someone else's killmail (and vice-versa), it just depends which side of the fence you're on.
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#25 - 2016-07-26 20:57:15 UTC
Dude has to be making money IRL from that setup. 227 accounts? I have multiple, but managing that is a job, not a game or hobby
Memphis Baas
#26 - 2016-07-26 21:02:00 UTC
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
227 accounts to farm injectors o.O
Broken feature is broken.


TBH, there's always someone in EVE who will go to the extreme. That doesn't mean the feature is broken. Just means some people are crazy.

If you sit down and calculate the guy's cost to set up the accounts, and the fact that he has to reserve a PLEX for the subscription out of the profits he makes from injectors on each account, 300m ISK / month isn't a big deal; you can easily do that with PI in high sec.

Only the fact that he has 227 of them makes it possible to claim 70B / month.

There are industrialists, traders, and scammers who make more than that per month, with only 1-3 accounts.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#27 - 2016-07-28 17:54:58 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
...300m ISK / month isn't a big deal; you can easily do that with PI in high sec.


How?

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

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u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
Ore No More
#28 - 2016-07-28 18:11:36 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
227 accounts to farm injectors o.O
Broken feature is broken.


TBH, there's always someone in EVE who will go to the extreme. That doesn't mean the feature is broken. Just means some people are crazy.

If you sit down and calculate the guy's cost to set up the accounts, and the fact that he has to reserve a PLEX for the subscription out of the profits he makes from injectors on each account, 300m ISK / month isn't a big deal; you can easily do that with PI in high sec.

Only the fact that he has 227 of them makes it possible to claim 70B / month.

There are industrialists, traders, and scammers who make more than that per month, with only 1-3 accounts.


Trader's profit ain't a flat line, sometimes they do, sometimes maybe not, don't know about the rest, besides at current prices you can make more than 300 mil per character, more like 100 bil per month and much more steady income, and it's always there, even if you don't log for a month or two, as long as you have the accounts active and with set queues.

To the OP - I know from experience this dedication is nothing, but greed Roll

Still, I admire such dedication, no matter the reasons. I myself bought ultra desktop with 3 monitors only because of EVE, so I know how it feels.
Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#29 - 2016-07-28 18:12:21 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
You think someone not raging over the loss of the Victorieux Luxury Yacht with 338 Skill Injectors in cargohold is serious dedication ?

I think the serious dedication is the fact that person has 227 accounts set up to farm Skill Injectors.

Wait, did I say serious dedication ? I meant to say serious exploitation.

Who would have predicted that skill farms would become the ultimate form of passive ISK with the release of skill injectors... (end of sarcasm).
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#30 - 2016-07-28 18:22:36 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Coralas wrote:


The character bazaar has always bypassed the training queue, it just did it badly. Likewise it was always possible to farm characters. It has however many problems that made for imo less than compelling gameplay (waaay too much capital, far tooo many SPs traded in one go and stomps all over the concept of character histories, or even being able to use a name you like on a character).

I have 15m SP on this character, I've earned all the injectors with this character, and the experience was enjoyable. The feeling of it being able to usefully progress after each injection was awesome. IMO its a better new player experience with injectors.

The game works just fine for people that don't need skill points anymore, ie its not a problem for EVE if newer players can progress more quickly, and its not a problem if they proceed past the point where they care about SP.

You couldn't be more wrong even if you tried. And on top of that you totally missed the point of my post.

The characters for sale in the Bazaar never bypassed the Training Queue. Those characters all spent time getting their skills via the training queue.

The whole point of the training queue is that it makes Eve a long term game giving the player something to work towards and pride in achieving that goal. It also basically keeps CCP collecting money. Characters such as yourself using skill injectors bypass the training queue thus turning Eve into a short term game. You and all the other instant gratification players will more than likely be gone in less than a year due to experiencing most everything Eve has to offer due to buying SP's. P2W will be the death of Eve.

By the way, using the New Player card to justify the exploitation of this game mechanic is weak, especially since it's mainly used by Vet's who can PLEX alt accounts for skillpoint farming.

The CCP Dev who came up with the idea of allowing characters to bypass the training queue and increase skill points with skill injectors should be fired.


DMC


I think you're conflating the terms "player" and "character."

Once a player starts playing multiple characters, the physics change.

KB

Dum Spiro Spero
Dibz
Doomheim
#31 - 2016-07-28 18:36:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Dibz
I hate to be cynical (ok I don't), but I can't imagine anyone bothering to put that much effort into the game for purely in-game rewards.
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#32 - 2016-07-28 18:46:02 UTC
Dibz wrote:
I hate to be cynical (ok I don't), but I can't imagine anyone bothering to put much that effort into the game for purely in-game rewards.

Captain Renault (aka CCP) would be shocked...SHOCKED...to learn that any RMT is occurring in his EvE.

KB

Dum Spiro Spero
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#33 - 2016-07-28 19:17:38 UTC
Now realise that the average character to player ratio in EVE is only 1.5 (rounded).
So consider how many solo account players must exist in order to balance out a 127 account player.

As another interesting look at statistics that this sort of thing reveals.
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2016-07-28 19:56:18 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Posting lossmails is against the rules, so I won't.

However, I will post a link to Reddit and if you read yoyo's post (3rd most up voted) that's a pretty chill response, but also a lot of dedication to this game:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4ujvkt/luxury_yacht_down/

I would like to think I'd be as relaxed about such a loss, but then....in reality I don't think I would be.


I could have sworn we all learned our lessons about transporting stuff like this with that PLEX Condor fiasco, a few years back.

If you can redeem it in the station you want to sell it in, please do so. If you bought it to use it, please don't put it in your cargo hold.
Basically, just don't ever put anything like this in your cargo, period. For any reason.
No ship is safe. Anything can be killed. Nothing is invincible. Even a Cockroach frigate is theoretically killable (if they were available on any live server) with enough shooters.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2016-07-28 19:57:53 UTC
The real question here should be "why is the loot fairy such an arse?"
Real money was paid for those. They should have all dropped.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Paranoid Loyd
#36 - 2016-07-28 20:08:27 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
They should have all dropped.
Why? Everything in game is the same. It's all "bought" with RL money.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

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Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2016-07-28 20:14:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
They should have all dropped.
Why? Everything in game is the same. It's all "bought" with RL money.


Because if I ever kill someone hauling that many injectors or PLEX, I want to immediately use them all.

And then send him an EVEmail saying "thanks for paying for my account for the next, like, 90 years."

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#38 - 2016-07-28 20:15:28 UTC
Am I safe in presuming that due to the silence from CCP that they are ok with this? Really?

This is so far from the gaming norm that it's difficult to get a grasp of, it has me staring at the screen wondering what the hell is happening to the game right now.

There has to be something seriously ****** up with anyone even considering running this many accounts, and something even more ****** up with CCP even allowing it.

Solecist Project...." They refuse to play by the rules and laws of the game and use it as excuse ..." " They don't care about how you play as long as they get to play how they want."

Welcome to EVE.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#39 - 2016-07-28 20:32:08 UTC
Drago Shouna wrote:
Am I safe in presuming that due to the silence from CCP that they are ok with this? Really?

This is so far from the gaming norm that it's difficult to get a grasp of, it has me staring at the screen wondering what the hell is happening to the game right now.

There has to be something seriously ****** up with anyone even considering running this many accounts, and something even more ****** up with CCP even allowing it.

Why wouldn't CCP be ok with it, What rule is it violating?
EVE is not a single account only game. So if someone wants that many accounts, it's surely up to them as long as they don't Bot.
Memphis Baas
#40 - 2016-07-28 20:36:46 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Now realise that the average character to player ratio in EVE is only 1.5 (rounded).
So consider how many solo account players must exist in order to balance out a 127 account player.


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