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I would say double cost is too light. 5x base build costs is where these should be. That puts the dread at 10bn - less than super but still wildy inefficient cost wise to normal dreads. Apply the same 5x base cost to the other two hulls and you're at the sweet spot I think.

The rarity of the BPC is going to jack the prices up naturally beyond base cost.

Actually, as with every faction variant, build-cost should be around what their T1 couterparts (or similar T1 ships) cost, and their value should come from the scarcity of the blueprints. But then, CCP decided to hand out a free Dread BPC to everyone completing the Gold Oroborous, and hand out 5 Titan / Supercarrier BPCs at the end of this event, and everything went crazy.

Also:
Lol at the "So many JFs to get all the mats to build them!" dude.
SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL MINERS, HMKAY.

if you're hauling cap components in a JF to build your super I truly feel bad for you.

It's being worked on. There's still some discussion with the focus group ongoing. It's a trifle more complex than just 'let contracts go to citadels too' you know.

This comment is, tbh, a lot dumber than you normally manage. Contracts in citadels requires code. This kind of change requires some relatively minor DB changes. Not at all on the same level.

Good thing all the old stations and Outposts are still around then, isn't it. Plus Contracts should be coming to Citadels with the next release, and are currently on the Test Server.

Beyond that... kind of Horde's choice to make that their new staging system when it couldn't meet all of their needs yet.

That said I'd actually encourage things like this as it finds flaws and pain points in the new features faster so I can't really knock the decision from a dev's perspective.

Nice overreacting there from a CSM member, or are you always this courteous when you want to win an argument
Defending the delay from CCP in having contracts for Citadels, which many in nullsec find a necessity, is less smart.

this dread is way too expensive to even consider to be anything but a trophy ship. if you want people to use them their build price needs to be just like how you handled other pirate faction ships.

bonuses on it should reflect other pirate faction lined ships, although outside of soloing i don't see the point of the webs. this 400% bonus to Armor Plates and Shield Extenders ***** got to go, and doesn't justify the extreme build price. also this sort of bonus doesn't make sense for balancing either.

ship model wise it's just a re-skind moros and while that is inline with serp pirate faction ships they really should have their own models like other pirate faction ships. you got a huge art department, make it so. no excuse for being lazy, and making art assets for a flop vr game doesn't count.

if you do adjust it properly then please consider refunding all the people who actually built this mutant black sheep already.

The build costs for all the new faction caps make little to no sense, this goes doubly for the dread. At its current price point the dread is useless or a waste in any role you could give it even discounting the siege module so you can get reps.

Please reconsider your faction capital build scheme, I know you guys can come up with something better and more balanced than this.

30bil dread it's like "Go home, you are drunk"... But ffs, stop being lazy and make unique models for this overpriced ships, not a repaint...

PS. Fozzie sov is is a pile of ****

I am meaning material cost. The Revenant isn't 120b in materials. This is where most peoples issue comes into place. The value in materials alone is just a base. The value itself is going to be higher which is why i don't see any vehement's being actually sieged