EVE Alliance Tournament Discussion

We simply need a way to get the team entries down to 64 so the tournament will be manageable to run.
The tournament is a fun project we run for the community but since EVE is a sandbox game spinning up tournaments of arbitrary size isn't as easy as it would be in a FPS/Moba type game.

I'd love to see us expand the number of teams that can participate someday if possible.

There are some player-run tournaments already. EVE_NT for example. I don't know the details for any of them however as I don't follow new about them, I simply see them mentioned from time to time.

Your post precisely reflect my thoughts about the tournament.
My friend and I participated in AT9 when we was in big alliance called White Noise.
in 2010 we formed our own small pvp oriented alliance and didn't pass randomizer for 5 years.
Now draw a picture in your mind. Every weekend we undock with 15-20 gallente only fleet with BS, Recons, in-grid Commands, logis etc. so its different ship types many roles very nice and interesting content for us and those who meet us in space. Our minimum roaming time is 3-5 hours. We jump with that megathrons for 50-60 jumps minimum. So we provide EVE Online with a very-very rare type of CONTENT. We are ready to fight with fleets bigger than ours and even if they have capitals, no problem. So we are doing it for 5 years. Is it fair that we don't pass through the Random Draw 5th time? Yes, coz it's random. Is it right to use random draw? No. Coz we deserve more than that for the hard work we do in this game.

Now Fozzy says we can not afford spend so much time on an ingame event. But this type of content is so much demand in EVE. One of our member quit EVE today. Hope his passion will cool tomorrow, but really. He was waiting for 5 years and gave up. Last year he managed whole alliance to gather plexes for auction, he attracted people from forums, youtube etc. He gathered 64 plexes and you know what. He needed one more plex to win last slot in auction (not sure it was enough though). So much people was involved in it, and still failed, coz there is always someone who have more isks than you. Just imagine what a man who love pvp in eve most of all in his life can feel after such fail, while giving isks back to people.

So yes it's hard for CCP to spend a lot of time on stuff that probably not intersting for them. But the demand of tournament content in eve is really huge. Many people play EVE just coz of AT and they spend real money for that.

So.. Maybe still CCP should spend some time for it one time in a year? Or maybe CCP should give players tools to create such events like tournament? I'm pretty sure there will be players who able to spend their time for that. Real life is a sandbox, too, though we have tournaments in it.

really hard to explain feeling not in native language, hope someone understand what i tried to say. i really love this game, may people excuse me for TLDR, probably my last post.

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If you want to encourage us to invest more heavily in tournaments the best thing you can do is show us that there is a demand by tuning in and encouraging your friends to do the same, and by tuning in and participating in player run tournaments like EVE_NT Collides.

Even on finals weekend it barely gets 3000-4000 viewers on a good day, so compared to other games (where a popular streamer can get that on a regular show) it's not a good IRL ISK investment from a marketing point of view. Even with a good chunk of the work being done voluntarily by CCP staff (yes, they probably put as much of their own time into these as players do), it still costs tens of thousands of dollars to run AT.

As Teddy says above without tools in the hands of players to make a match fair and relatively stress-free to run, the tournament community relies on CCP staff good will to keep running. You wouldn't believe the amount of behind the scenes effort to run one episode of EVE_NT collides smoothly, we are talking a team of 15-20 people each episode, not to mention the dozens of hours spent preparing each episode which is a lot of people hours that players are selflessly investing for the good of the community. Personally in the last year i have put hundreds of hours into running and producing tournaments, its a very time consuming process.

Hopefully that is changing soon, CCP Logibro, backed up by other members of the dev and community team see the important value of the tournament community as something that keeps bitter-vets interested in eve year to year and gives keen young PVP players an end game goal to work towards. Keep lobbying your CSM representatives to push CCP management for more support for these projects if you want to see more of them, and tune in to any and every broadcast of any tournament to demonstrate your interest, even if the production/content is amateurish - we all start somewhere!

Fingers crossed Thunderdome is as awesome as promised which enables players to run tournaments a lot more easily and fairly without having to rely on CCP, my hope is this will really enable the tournament community to take off and who knows, maybe next year they will be able to reserve some AT places for teams that have risen through the ranks of some more junior tournaments (my dream!).

Also Teddy that really sucks, as a team that emptied all our wallets last year to get I can relate to the stress as of only having one shot a year to try and get in, best of luck with the auction - having run into your megathrons on TQ, i think you guys would mae a great AT team.

Many worthy teams could not and would not be able to get to the tournament, while half of the selected teams all the time in the game spends only in anomalies.

This draw for **** like the system itself. Good luck you CCP with such a crappy approach.

44 slots for random draw and 8 slots for auction. maybe CCP should have flipped this numbers???

I've just been offered to lead a chosen team at AT9. A man told me that both of their ALT ALLIANCE won the random draw! lol. Enjoy it CCP friends.. Perfect selection method!
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one team with two alliances pass the tournament. one - because i know only one. who knows how many teams gona play for 2 names..

people asking for ccp to put more resources into this are funny, the twitch stream barely gets views(few thousands at most, eve has anywhere from 20-35k on at the same time) that should tell you how much actual demand there is for AT.

their resources are far better spent on the actual game development, they already spend to much effort on AT as it is IMO.

also OP you are a great fool. the lottery aspect of AT is pretty bad and "should" be fixed somehow but the cost is pretty nonexistant and should be increased if anything and that actually might justify putting more resources into AT as well since plex are income for ccp(assuming they actually use this income for AT)