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So now, just stupid overpriced....down from INSANELY overpriced

Wow this is great! I'm gonna get one of my own now!

Just a quick question, when do you give the avatar more CPU? Thanks!

Can we at least get a estimate on when tiericide will be completed as well, you started that got 3/4rds done and now nothing.

The faction titans should be insanely overpriced keep them unique and rare.

Hey! This is a good change, but in my humble opinion does not go quite far enough.

I wrote about this at length on EN24 http://evenews24.com/2016/07/17/shadow-of-the-serpent-the-good-the-bad-and-the-grindy/

But for those who don't want to click the link here is the relevant excerpt below:

First off was pricing – The Vehement (Dreadnaught) was coming in at least ~40bn ISK to build, the Vendetta (Super Carrier) is looking at in excess of ~120bn ISK, the Vanquisher (Titan) was coming in at a whopping ~400bn ISK. Note, that’s build cost, not estimated value. This smashed all previously set out conventions for build/price ratios for pirate faction ships. Pirate faction ships can command premiums of over 10x their build value for frigates going up to 3 or 4 times for the battleships. This is pretty commonly put down to the fact that the increased costs is all down to loyalty point grind required to obtain them and the difficulty in obtaining the appropriate LP. Have you ever tried to obtain LP for a faction battleship from running the missions in NPC nullsec? It’s a hairy experience and again a very long grind. Those who control the level 5 mission agent systems can pull in tens of thousands in LP per mission, but need to be willing to put some serious hardware on the line for it. Of course if you are in a group organised enough to ‘control’ the space then life is a lot easier but still fairly risky. Even so, to obtain a faction battleship you are looking at maybe a dozen level 5 missions or 200 level 4 missions. No small order. So CCP uses loot drops in exploration sites and anomalies to offset this. Otherwise there would be a huge bottleneck in supply. Remember when faction battleships were all nearer to the 1 billion isk mark? Indeed the majority of faction pirate battleships now come from loot drops in nullsec sites and exploration sites rather than the mission running.

The Developer blog from CCP indicates that the Serpentis capital ships will be implemented into the Serpentis LP store, there is no mention of drops. So these capital ships will, quite rightly, command a huge LP premium on their build costs. The Vehement alone is 16x the build cost of a Moros (around 40bn ISK). Add in special components (chips) and LP costs this could end up being a significant amount. Your average pirate faction battleship for example is worth 800,000 Loyalty points which commands a wide range of values from 400isk/lp to 1,000isk/lp. We don’t know how much these capital ship BPC’s will be so estimating how much they could be is at this moment in time an impossible task.

Indeed, the only example we have at the moment is the Revenant (first pirate faction capital ship) which drops from Low Security Incursions. The build cost is in the region of 20bn ISK which is the same as normal supercarriers. But, due to their rarity they command an asking price of around 100bn ISK or 4-5 times the build cost. The Serpentis Supercaptial – The Vendetta, is 120bn ISK just to build!

TL:DR the current build costs of these ships seems to ignore the convention for faction ships overall - there is probably a very good design reason for this, but I feel that upping the build costs of these ships so they are much higher than their t1 counterparts basically destroys the LP / Blueprint value.

Role Bonus:

- can fit Siege modules
- 50% reduction to Siege Module duration time
- 40% bonus to Capital Hybrid Turret damage
- 2x bonus to Entosis Link cycle time


Whoah now you will see people using and losing them, congrats.

Vehements should actually insure quite well, since their value doesn't come from horrifically rare BPCs, but from the actual amount of minerals you have to pour at them. It's tank is **** tho, worse than a Moros or Naglfar.


On the remote ancillary modules:
Armor is cool on paper,
Shield is absolutely ********. You pay a Capacitor Booster Charge for one Cycle, but that charge could fuel 4 (6) cycles of a regular repper. So, twist it like you want, all i can imagine it being useful for is extending your cargospace by 9 charges by fitting it offline in the highs...

Glad to see the scaa thing was noticed lol.

so you can actually build them now?

Why would someone build this when you can build two supercarriers for the same cost in minerals?

30 bill for a dread is still too much. It should be 4 bill for the hull, maximum - double the cost of the moros.