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+ for the band aid fix

how about moving citadels off grid, sure there aren't too many citadel gatecamps.... >_____>



Not sure if troll or special snowflake. You sure watched one or two pvp videos but throwing the therm "risk awerse" at drag bubbles sends a message you got no idea what it means or how camps work. Won't even comment on the warp thing, think on your own what it would do to bubble ships and fleet pvp.

Till the hauler lights his cyno that is.
Till something comes through he can kill, followed by a ceptorfleet.
Till the ship turns out to be a deadspace death machine.
Till undersized guns.
Till another cloaky shows up and waits for the camper to make a move.
Till bait Nereus.
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no risk confirmed.

LOL.. you really live out there don't you.

Who's going to waste a cyno and fatigue on a Svipul ganking off a drag bubble?
Hmm he's sitting cloaked off a drag bubble and DOESN'T see a ceptor fleet jump in and warp to him - He deserves to die.
A deaspsace fit hauler that can outgun a Svipul - I'd like to see that fit.
Undersized guns? wtf does that have to do with anything..
Another cloaky? yeah ok I'll give you that 100 to 1 shot. so minor risk that is pretty easy to avoid. If he's cloaked off the same drag bubble, chances are he is hunting too.
Bait nereus - Stupidity on the hunters side doesn't make it risky. Still by the time the Nereus's support fleet jumps in and warps to the bubble, the Nereus should be well and truely dead.

So I'll upgrade risk to minimal, depending on how smart the hunter is - A stupid hunter, well, you get the idea but that's more player skill vs reward, not risk vs reward.
A lone hunter off a drag bubble faces, minimal risk, if any at all.

If this means I can no longer deploy a working bubble mid-way, between gates. No thanks.
Back to the drawing board. Perhaps link change to citadels, as this is how this has been exploited?

BUAHAHAHAHA

Is k guys, we found the counter to T3Ds, everyone can go home now...

Seriously warn people before linking stuff like that, I almost died laughing in public.



That would be the case with this change. You could still deploy your catch bubble on-grid with the gate though.

What can you do that is very significant with this bubble setup that you can't also do with an on-grid setup at the gate?

Go ahead and make the change I'll just find a new way abuse the mechanic and so will everyone else.

Make sure you include ESS in this as well, since they're a backdoor bubble.

Because if there's a Bubble that blocks Nullified Ships then there's no reason to use anything else and the whole point and advantage of Nullified ships goes almost completely out the window? Making it something that needs to be active to be used doesn't really change that your proposal negates a major feature of several hulls.

If you want to catch, stop, or destroy Nullified hulls then there are already several options available to you, including Smartbomb camps, insta-lock on the in-gate, and guarding whatever they're going after.

This isn't actually a good argument for the benefit you're proposing though. There are already plenty of benefits to owning space, what you need to do is make a case for why having a barely trained alt (with a fit worth less than a T2 Large bubble) pointing a module at an anchored bubble should negate a major ability on several ship classes and why this is good gameplay.

A successful camp already requires active participation, and there are already tools available to deal with Interceptors, it's just difficult which is the point of the ship.

i think it would be better just to get citadels off gate grids