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For all the bros interested I updated the google sheet for figther/bomber/etc dps volly ability calculation with the new numbers suggested by CCP.. its set to view only so if you wanna use it just make a copy for yourself to play with it..

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUYXTcG8E7Yxfad_THbmv1Tn_E1hsaon1-AuoIq2GsI/edit?usp=sharing

Your basic ability will have more volly damage then the Missile ability against subcapitals. Web's will become mandatory for the missile ability to have any effect.

Which wouldn't be AS much of an issue, if we could use webs / tps / points while running an NSA, but CCP decided that having a 99999% increase in cap use while the NSA is on made sense post nerf. (I completely understand why it was added in the first place, but now it just serves to keep carriers even more crippled)

2 things that would have been viable ideas:
1) Make it so that sensor boosters get the same cap penalty as ewar when the NSA is running, and have the sensor strength at 650% while nerfing the raw damage of missile volleys
2) If you are going to keep the absolutely overbearing nerf numbers, add an additional launch tube ONLY for support fighters, and keep the other tubes damage only. That way carriers have a way to actually be useful, and will have to make choices on which support fighters to bring / use. (since support fighters are generally fairly useless in comparison with damage fighters, even post change.)

Also, thank you for the spreadsheet, I'm going to be playing around with the more.

You are just as wrong as your Corpmate on Reddit who thinks that the Fighters apply worse than Caldary Navy Torps. I know that neither Fighters nor Warrios can orbit a 4.5km/s Inty, its in my ******* picture. Do you people seriously not read.

To be fair, there was a minor error with the Damage Reduction Factor (i had the Fighter Gun and Torp switched in a few places). I will just post it without commenting and see if you guys can read

I don't fly Caps, and apparently neither do you or you would have just answered the question.

They can orbit with the MWD on, are you so dense?

No, they cannot. Like I said, the overshoot is hilarious. Something you'd know if you actually flew the ships you're banging on about.

Maybe they can in your lovely little excel world, however out on TQ what happens is they go shooting past the target like wile e coyote passing the roadrunner off a cliff. And with their RoF it's blind luck for them not to land a 0-1 hit on the way by.

Except, once again, if you flew these you'd know that even with an optimal of 4800m, they will still cycle weapons even at 100kms. This means as I said it's blind luck if you can catch them in range at the speeds you're talking about because the guns cycle all the time, not only if ranges are good. Warriors do not have this failing, they only open fire in range.

Yes, it's great on paper but in the real world it just doesn't work like that.

I get it, you're a spreadsheet master, but go test this crap for real for the love of god.

You manually control fighter weapons....

If you don't fly caps, and you don't do math, what the **** are you even doing in this thread?

(In b4 Fighters get jammed by Griffin again)

Proof of what, that I can click a button every 5 seconds? If I am bored today, I might just do that, but it will take hours I suspect, as I would need 3 accounts, Slaves, T2 Fighters, Max Skills, and they stopped seeding Caps for this afaik.

can we have a auto cycle for the heavy salvo? it doesn do any sense to have to press it everytime,

worth it is when you actually get "Your fighter pilots are busy. Please wait 46 seconds before giving further movement orders." because you have to more or less spam it. please fix that ccp...

I second this.