EVE General Discussion

Hi everyone,

I spent my sunday baby sitting some market orders in Jita
I noticed strange behaviors from my "competitors" in buy orders.
Just because I'm not so smart and EVE people is so clever, I respectfully submit to your attention 3 screen captures I took.
Your comments will be welcome.

Thanks

http://imgur.com/iCvbHOp
http://imgur.com/6L4ffDF
http://imgur.com/ZDQBx5L

Thanks for your reply

Why do they keep playing the 0.01 isk game constantly with no hope of a match before a long time ?

Would you spend time changing each 5-20 min your orders if you see a big order above which will covers yours for hours ?

In 2 of the 3 captures, there is no order older than 40 min right to the red bracket. My order (blue) is 2 hours old

What kind of operator repeats over and over the same "silly practice" ? (->read stupid routine, hint, hint)

They most likely have their range set to 0 jumps via the little cogwheel on the right upper side of the trade window. If you do that your order would get filtered out, because it is 1 jump out. They simply don't see it.

They figure that the orders above them are going to be exhausted, so they'll be able to get a much cheaper one.
There's also the possibility that it's all the same guy trying to make it look like there's a lot more competition at that price point than there really is.

So if you see an order for 20 ships 6 Mil above yours, you gonna spend many hours changing each few minutes your own orders just to make people believe that there is a lot of demand for this particular item at a lower price than the actual one ? Quite complicated explanation but ok, I respect your point of view and thanks for your input.

if you have time, google this : Occam's razor

This is a possibility. Would you manually ofc change your order, let's say 4 times per hour, for 3-4 hours (buy orders for T2 ships are no so fast to complete even in Jita, even on sundays), in the hope to pocket 3 Mil extra buck, meanwhile 4-6 others traders do the same ?

another pic for Deimos this time : http://imgur.com/WYKyQd5

My order for 15 Deimos @ 200 Mil each 5 hours ago, still 3 remaining to buy

See under, 7 fresher (<2 hours) orders @ 199.900.000 isks

profit margin is around 16 Mil after taxes and fees. I sold 8 Deimos at this price since I placed this buy order

That only works if people behave logically and rationally. There's nothing that says this trader isn't crazy and/or bored.

Maybe they wanted their very own topic.

I try to diversify my portfolio as much as I can to make a little bit of ISK on as much as I could. Project Discovery, mining in high-sec and in low-sec for minerals which later get used for manufacturing, harvesting PI materials, and finally market trading.

But one thing I noticed recently about market trading is how traditional market trading is starting to feel. As Archibald Thistlewaite III pointed out earlier in this thread, those "off-shore tax citadels" seem to have made an impact to some degree on the way trading works. As I recall during my last visit to the system, Perimeter (next door to Jita) has its own Astrahus Citadel not far from the stargate. Depending on which economic hub you are coming from, that 1 jump difference can make in impact on the haulers who are looking to keep their trips as short as possible because time is ISK. But as I can see from the rest of this discussion, that doesn't seem to be the only advantage that citadels have over the NPC stations.

Tax and reprocessing rates are also another thing. I have been to citadels that offered better reprocessing rates than NPC stations and that are open for everyone. I'm curious now as to the real impact that the citadels are making in regards to trade.

Too bad you can't gank them inside the stations. I think this is where those Project Nova mercenaries can be of real use one day.