EVE General Discussion

We will at some point in the future stop supporting Windows 7. Perhaps distant future, but we are not supporting it forever.

By comparison then Microsoft's extended support for Windows XP ended in April 8 2014 and we are ending Windows XP support in June 2016. Microsoft's extended support for Windows 7 ends in January 2020 so we *possibly might* end Windows 7 support in March 2022. But I'm not making commitments whatsoever on an exact date (or year).

*uses the internet then demands privacy

Well my ability to play Eve ends on June 30th, guess I'll be winning Eve! Thx CCP

what kind of workaround

As was said in another thread, if the new launcher doesn't allow management of several installs of the game separately by then, it means that I'm gone. You've been doing a lot of bad UI/user experience decisions over the last two years, the last three (ads in station, current behavior of the new launcher and forcing the broken new camera on players) being too stupid to put up with.

I understand dropping support for XP, it had to happen sooner or later, but forcing this new launcher is ridiculous. The fact that the new launcher isn't stable has been covered, but it needs to be pointed out that its interface is terrible and looks like it was designed by a first year web designer that has never even heard of desktop interface design.

The use of floating panels is disgusting and may be common place on the web, but it has no place on desktop applications. The amount of wasted real estate is jaw dropping and should make any experienced designer ashamed. Regardless of the layout option chosen, the login panel covers up one or more of the other panels or lists of information, which is the kind of rookie mistake I shouldn't expect from an experienced company like CCP, though I sadly do expect such things these days.

And I guess I will mention that I brought up the new launcher while writing this, so I could verify what I am saying, and the thing crashed twice in this short amount of time.

In summary, the new launcher is subpar software and most certainly needs more than a month of work before it is any where near ready to be made mandatory. This is the quality work one might expect from a fly by night mobile app company, but not from a multiyear, desktop oriented company like CCP.

what do you expect from a game launcher? all the options are easily visible and the interface is pretty easy to navigate, the floating panel in the centre is pretty much a call to action which immediately targets your eyes so you can log in quickly.

never had an issue with the launcher crashing so its probably a fault in your own system.

If you're having trouble with the current launcher, I recommend posting in the EVE Launcher forum.

The relevant developers are active about following up on reported issues.

Don't take that as an offense; our personal security should be our business, not yours. There are reasons why Windows XP should no longer be used, and that is not one of them. Your company provides the service to a freetime activity, an entertainment, a game. What we do with our security is not and should not be your concern.

Unless of course you have a valid reason to say that by using your product there are additional security breaches cracking open for windows XP that can be exploited. But then it would have been your premise to close them on the client side already long ago.

I understand that Windows XP has to die in terms of manhour maintenance and so forth and so on, but putting security on the table is not valid.


Managing maximum allowed download speed
Managing different locations for different clients for performance and orderly reasons.
Not screwing up everything in the system profile settings when storing client sided information.
Storing cache in client locations instead of system folders or rather, letting the player choose where to save that. To iterate on that point; it's useless to have character images for one client cache each. The only things that should be stored on different locations should be UI customizations and gaming preferences. There is no reason to add up image bulk, yet that's what is still being done.

Last but not least: having no launcher at all. The times when Eve was launcher-free have been golden. Sadly they are gone.