Crime & Punishment

Blowing up afk people in general is the only logical thing to do.

Why let them make as much isk as an active player?
You want isk, you gotta work for it, you gotta play for it..

So, death (in game) to all bot-aspirants!

Math is hard (for some people)

OP

couple of things.

Firstly CODE are scum bags, their claims and justification for playing eve in "easy mode" are poor.

Secondly, Join a corp, you're reasons while somewhat valid should not stop you from joining a corp. Eve is not really a solo game for the newer players and rememeber, if you don't like your corp you can leave it.

Thirdly, as many have already stated, New Eden is not safe... anywhere. I believe it has already been mentioned, making isk AFK sure not pay as well as income made via activity.

If i can offer some advise, join a corp, learn from your corp mates.

I don't want to derail the OPs thread.. but your claims to attack only the afk is simply not true...

If they were it would make my statement that the CODE play Eve in easy even more correct.

either way... scum bags

if you want to debate this one on one, you can find me in Teskenen. Because being an even bigger scum bag (-10) I can't come to your place.

High-sec is still a viable place to live?

Besides, if they are _really_ afk mining, they deserve to be blown up. Any and all AFK activities should be detrimental to your in-game wealth.

Hi OP! Only just saw your post. I'm the one you replied to.


Welcome to EVE, where everything you do involves imposing your will onto a multiplayer game world.

If you mine, you are harming everyone that already owns the type of minerals you are mining. They have to compete with you to sell ore, or to sell completed products. (By mining, you, of course, also help some players - the net consumers of minerals, mostly alliances aspiring toward owning supercapital fleets and the biggest Citadels).

The counterplay to you imposing your will on the game world is for other players to prevent you doing so. Ganking is one of the tools in our arsenal.

Mining AFK is a method of magnifying your impact on the game world - you devote a few minutes to getting set up then have the impact of an hour or more of mining. Higher reward - but a much higher risk. Both NPC ships and other players will try to blow you up.

This isn't a cooperative game. Hell, it stands for 'everyone versus everyone'. Now, go out there and shoot someone in the face (in game of course). Win or lose, you'll probably both have fun.

I like you

Hello ladies and gentlemen!

I have been reading your posts all this time so your efforts typing were not wasted (not that most of you really care ).

I was also reading a lot of other topics on this forum and other websites. As I said before I am pretty good at reading between the lines, so here is my conclusion (general):

Being a hapless noob I raised a subject that was discussed many times and by the majority of the Eve's community the practice was "branded" as immoral (in the very moral world of Eve ). Everyone (the majority at least) does it, but rare ones admit it .

You are allowed (and seemingly encouraged) to kill a new character who has no idea about the Eve's world, mechanics and who's overwhelmed by the game's complexity.

So much fun for the experienced players (shooting at sitting ducks)! Much more, of course, than picking a decent opponent for an equal fight and risking your expensive ship. Better kill the noob now (easy kill, something to brag on killboards), the moment he/she leaves the station, as he is presenting a danger for the Eve's economy and needs to be eliminated (better kicked out of the game) before he spends too much time mining some "enormous" amount of Veldspar in his rookie ship or Venture (for the smarter ones).

OK, I got it!!!! Subject closed (at least for me).

As the famous biblical Job said: "Therefore I despise myself and repent in dust and ashes." Who am I to question the "gods" of Eve.

See you (maybe) in the Eve's universe! Going back to the game as my Talwar (that I got from Mike) is sitting in the docks.

P.S. I am really grateful to those of you who posted useful information, or at least did not give me "attitude".

I thought you said you were good at reading between the lines? Damn near every conclusion you made there is wrong.

To get started, if you get into an evenly matched fair fight, you screwed up. Battle is about victory, not some abstract artificial Space Honor. Your job as a pilot is to convince your opponent the fight is in his favor, (even if only slightly) so that he commits to the engagement. Once he does, that's when you reveal that the odds are actually in your favor and he's screwed. If he's better than you, you'll find out he was actually right and you're the one that's screwed.
Either way, if it's actually a fair fight, you both screwed up.

Eve is a violent multiplayer game. Caring is sharing (bullets, preferably at high velocity). Eve is harsh, Eve is brutal. Your decisions have consequences, sometimes you get lucky and avoid them, other times you don't. But every decision you make has consequences and you need to be prepared to deal with them.

That means that if you choose to go AFK you need to accept that you might come back to find yourself in a station with no ship.

As to the skills, stop making excuses and get out there and learn to fly. Fly cheap. Join a group that will provide you with ships, that way you're not losing your own money. And then insure the ships they give you, that way you're actually making money by dying.
You'll never learn how to PVP ready a god damn forum, the forum is mostly here for bittervets to ***** at each other.

This is Eve, it is the greatest terrible game ever. The people make it great, not the mining mechanics. Get out there and see what makes it so great, or stop wasting your time mining afk while you read forums.

I hope to see you in space! Preferably in my fleet, or in my locked target ui!

<3

If you want, hit me up. Rabble is recruiting and you can learn to PVP while still doing your whole mining thing, if you really have to.