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Nothing wrong with skill injectors they are a great new feature, the dailys are meh do em or dont your choice but why should we be limited by what you want.
Adapt or .... well you know.

Good job CCP keep up the progress.

The barrier to entry of this activity is so low that it's silly to worry about people cheesing the system. "Abuse" isn't something to worry about when the difficulty level to match equates to killing any NPC. The request to expand the feature before implementing it is so certain people aren't punished in other ways by participating - losing a -10.0 sec status is a commonly cited example. Adding new success criteria would allow more people to participate without unforeseen penalties or needing to change their current out of game or in game lifestyles.

just kill FW rats, should count too

I thought one of the things that made Eve Eve was the fact that you gain "exp" passively via skill queue, rather than actively by killing stuff. Besides, killing npcs is a huge income source, especially in 0.0. And since skill points have now been given a value in ISK via skill extractors/injectors, you're creating a way for players to make even more ISK off of ratting. Not that I have a problem with making more ISK from ratting, because I rat all the time. What I want to know is how that's going to affect the market. Will the increased number of ratters, as well as the increased sp, and therefore isk, gain devalue loot and salvage? I'm not entirely sure this is a good idea.

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A goon likes it, which means it is probably a terrible idea.

you're cherrypicking, the majority of this thread is negative

In my opinion this is a step in a wrong direction. The whole concept of 'dailies' goes against the spirit of EVE and what it is supposed to be (or claimed it was over the years). Furthermore the skill-point rewards feel equally wrong (why not give at least a small amount of Aurum instead? anything but skill points). EVE was supposed to be a sandbox game where you didn't have to level-up or grind skill points and yet you are implementing this toxic daily system so people can perform the most trivial and meaningless task or feel bad for missing out on (somewhat substantial) rewards. And for what? To artificially inflate login numbers?

If the goal is player retention and increased activity there are so many cool alternatives you could implement. Why not give us something fun and exciting to do instead if you are so keen on dailies?

How about 'convo a random person and write him/her 3 messages' to get the reward? Each day we could say hi to a random person, ask how their day is going and meet someone new. Maybe it's not the best idea but it's just an example. EVE is a social game, driven by player made content - why don't you use the game's strong points to your advantage?

Really disappointing that a team of such creative individuals that work at CCP couldn't think of a better alternative than daily quests. If dailes are really so statistically vital at least you could put a spin on the system. Do something unique with it. Stand out from other games! But no, you picked the most boring, unimaginative, dreadful, mind numbing task of warping to a belt and killing a rat to get your daily reward.

I personally like tje idea of rewarding effort in a way that one can't buy with ISK or more specifically, have the task more attractive to the average player then buying the reward with ISK.

Skill points are a good example of this, But I think consumables or BPCs or othere rare or limited items should be available. They could even be 'genetically coded' the user, meaning they wouldn't work for other players. Tjese items could be booster or training acceleration items or things like Rigs or special ammo or modules that burn out after a period of use and don't come back.

I would also lke to see these rewards given for more complex activities. Completing a PvE challenge like a mission, a signature, an anomaly, faction warfare complex or incursion site.

Perhaps agents could spawn in space or create an anomaly that only you can see/warp to? The idea of such a thing appearing once per time period per player would be cool.

I would lme to see a bunch of NPCs or unique anoms being spawned on a weekly basis. They would randomly spawn in system for a character once an hour, changing each hour for a player. If a player didn't like what he got (and it should be clear before triggering it what it is) then they can go to another system and a new one will spawn there or wait an hour and the one in the system you are in will cycle.

Once you have completed a challenge, it will not appear for another week. You could even have this to specific missons, or anomalies so a player might have six or seven different reoccurring things he could do in a day or a week and they all reset at the same time, encouraging people to complete them all before the time runs out.

Each one could have different challenge levels and give bigger rewards, perhaps some might even make you put up an amount or ISK as a deposit(like a courier contract,) or bet being placed before you can take the mission. This would encourage people to take greater risks and would act as an ISK sink upon failure.


I'm going to propose an idea for a mew type of mission here, and I understand if it's just not possible logically but it would be hugely encouraging to see it doable. Imagine a mission that spawns an NPC is space and then creates a chase-like scenario. The NPC appears in an bookmark like a mission , but will not stay there. After it's first engagement, it would move to a celestial body somewhere the solar system. A timer begins. Every tme it is engaged, it fights until it's main tank is gon and then jumps somewhere else. (Not to a moon because POS guns but gates should be part of it.) Location it jumps to is semi-random and will eventually jump to a gate and change systems. It would stay in what ever consolation it's in until a timer is up and it 'escapes' and despawns.
I am envisioning a system where the person who has the mission gets a notification every time the NPC warps to a new location and when it changes system along with what system it jumped to. The idea is to create a moving target for a gang of players can use different tactics, even some PVP type stuff. It would need to be tackled or bubbled, you would be able to se to drag bubbles for it, especially if you expect it to jump system and so know it's going to a gate next.

I would also suggest these be available from the Bounty Office tab in stations.

I hope a dev gives this some thought.


As an aside, these are inspired by the Burner missions, which are super cool, but far too unpredictable. I wish I could ask my mission agents for Burner missions. Just a button that asks for a Burner mission next rather then a normal mission would be fine. I want to be able to chose to fly one rather then them upsetting a good flow I have with normal missions if that's what I'm doing.

So changing the name to recurring because DAILIES was complained against.. Does not make the system any worse.


I for one.. am speaking with my wallet. Subs won't be renewed. Wish I hadn't done the year thing as the accounts still go to october. I'm one of those that had PAID to keep the account going specifically so I can keep my training going while I'm away, often for many months, without the ability to log in more than maybe once or twice the entire time. Adding in new sources for SP, will have very long unintended consequences and I for one am not going to keep paying for the account especially since there's no need for it. I can just buy plex with isk., (thanks to SP injectors the cost is dropping like mad) and this feature will just add more SP to the injector pool.

Because that would be shitting all over an income source?

I find these daily quests a terrible, terrible idea! Like WOW-in-Space level of terrible.

So uncreative and boring and simply a bad idea on so many levels... I thought the idea of EVE was to be able to do anything, play any role, be it trader or merc or scientist... But now, to remain competitive you will have to login and run daily quests (and ******* boring "go kill x of y" style quests at that) like some plain old WOW player... Such a great idea devs