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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen

Doomheim

Likes received: 2,690

#61 - 2016-04-30 22:31:28 UTC

Feyd: I imagine that right now, you're feeling a bit like Alice. Hmm? Tumbling down the rabbit hole?
Raz: You could say that.
Feyd: I see it in your eyes. You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees because he is expecting to wake up. Ironically, that's not far from the truth. Do you believe in CCP, Raz?
Raz: No.
Feyd: Why not?
Raz: Because I don't like the idea that ree-ree's are in control of my gaming experiences.
Feyd: I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire EvE life, that there's something wrong with New Eden. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Raz: Bitter-vetdom?
Feyd: Do you want to know what it is?
Raz: Yes.
Feyd: Bitter-vetdom is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very thread. You can see it when you undock or when you jump your Proteus. You can feel it when you pvp... when you pve... when you pay your wardec fees. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
Raz: What truth?
Feyd: That CCP doesn't love you Raz. Like everyone else you were born into a hisec prison. Into a repetitive and ultimately pointless ISK and skill-point grinding prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind.
Raz: Dude, let me the **** out.
Feyd: You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in Romi and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Would you like to know more?

Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club 2,381
Mike Adoulin Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club Likes received: 2,381	#62 - 2016-04-30 22:57:28 UTC 1 Agent Fozzie: Why hello there, Mr. Razpataz. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Lord Razpataz

Devils Rejects 666

The Devil's Warrior Alliance

Likes received: 576

#63 - 2016-05-01 12:44:02 UTC

First of all I have to say thanks for all the kind words. I really thought the trolls would try to tackle me at the first page.

Love you guys! ♥

As for all the helpfull suggestions.. I have to say we have already tried most ways to circumvent the buddylist change for 2 months now. Some work to a degree in smaller scale, others are just to much work.
Keep in mind I've now tried to hold on to the old school hunting for 6 years and burned out alot of my guys just by doing that.
The ones who had no patience or effort for it left to other mass decing operations (just to have easier kills) or burned out and went to a 0.0 retirement home.. waiting for pings.

I already have what I think is the most dedicated and patient members in eve, and some secret squirrels.
What makes you think making it even harder would make people not pick the low hanging fruit instead?

The Church of Awesome 1,578
IbanezLaney The Church of Awesome Likes received: 1,578	#64 - 2016-05-01 12:58:59 UTC \| Edited by: IbanezLaney 1 I agree that the watchlist changes are stupid. But: There is lots of PvP in both Low and Null Sec. No need to fold your corp when there are many places to have fun in Eve blowing stuff up. If you leave high sec you get better content. https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney

Jagd Wilde

Pandemic Horde Inc.

Pandemic Horde

Likes received: 117

#65 - 2016-05-01 13:51:49 UTC

Starrakatt wrote:

Jagd Wilde wrote:

I have heard that if one wants quick, fast, and plentiful PvP , that one only needs to leave hisec. No need to spend hours hunting one hisec carebear.
Roll

This is my main, FETID is a Lowsec entity.

That being said: All styles of gameplay are valable: Hisec, Lowsec, Nulsec, WH. Some people prefer Hisec. Who are you to judge what one prefers?

Post with your main or GTFO.

OP was crying about changes to hisec merc work. I offered a solution to finding plentiful and readily available targets. You got butthurt about whatever and felt the need to post more tears.

I was under the impression that mercs were badazz hunter/killers. Your tears did not seem of the same quality. They did, however, smack of adolescent inability to adapt or die. For a lowsec whatever you are, you sure seem salty. Maybe you should move to hisec and buy a barge, you seem to fit that group well.

Post something relevant to OP's problem or GTFO

Every alt I own has a red safety, this has brought my friends much laughter.

Lord Razpataz

Devils Rejects 666

The Devil's Warrior Alliance

Likes received: 576

#66 - 2016-05-01 14:10:17 UTC

Jagd Wilde wrote:

Starrakatt wrote:

Jagd Wilde wrote:

I have heard that if one wants quick, fast, and plentiful PvP , that one only needs to leave hisec. No need to spend hours hunting one hisec carebear.
Roll

Speaking of trolls...
The same goes for you tho.. leaving highsec does not really solve my problem.. does it?

New Eden Tech Support 21,564
Ralph King-Griffin New Eden Tech Support Likes received: 21,564	#67 - 2016-05-01 14:22:04 UTC 3 Still stuck with the "** what you find" instead of "find what you want to **". Murderers of Negotiable Motivations =]\|[=

Jagd Wilde

Pandemic Horde Inc.

Pandemic Horde

Likes received: 117

#68 - 2016-05-01 15:16:55 UTC

Lord Razpataz wrote:

Jagd Wilde wrote:

Starrakatt wrote:

Jagd Wilde wrote:

I have heard that if one wants quick, fast, and plentiful PvP , that one only needs to leave hisec. No need to spend hours hunting one hisec carebear.
Roll

Speaking of trolls...
The same goes for you tho.. leaving highsec does not really solve my problem.. does it?

Hey i can admit that the watchlist changes were unnecessarily applied to hisec, and that CCP could have protected super pilots in null just by having the watchlist apply to only to pilots in hisec.
Hawever, if your problem is that you cannot use the watchlist to easily find carebear targets, then you get no sympathy. EvE is hard. Adapt or die. Delete the week. I am sure you have heard it all. And some of us dont think it should be easy to kill targets in hisec while you are protected from others by CONCORD.

You cannot simply watchlist some noob carebear corp to easily farm kills outside of the hub/pipe systems anymore, and that may suck for someone who cannot adapt.

So adapt. I know that changing old habits is tough, and sometimes it just does seem worth it, but buck up friend. If you need to scare up some quick and plentiful kills to satiate your members then you should be in Saranen right now. Is there something stopping you from going to lowsec and finding gudfites? Something other than the relative safety that hisec game mechanics allow you while you hunt easy prey?

Hisec 'merc' corps have had it easy for a long time. Easy to pad the kb while relatively safe from the rest of EvE.
Someone mentioned having an alt join the wt's for the member list intell. That suggestion was deemed "not worth it". To hard huh?

Maybe hisec 'merc' work was really not merc related. I will need to google 'mercenary' again, but does a merc not place themselves in harm's way, to use skills learned in battle to fight for someone in exchange for money?

Maybe you lot mistook 'merc' for 'assassin'. Either is viable gameplay in EvE, but only one takes on the dangers of mercernary work. The other hides behind CONCORD and wardecs while farming easy-killz in hisec.

Were any of you sperglords actually involved in the recent IWI merc war against the Imperium? For either side? If so, then congratulations, you earned isk as a Mercenary.

The rest of you were hiding in hisec, like assassins, trying to farm kills while protected by CONCORD.

I personally have several alts performing awox services in a few hisec carebear corps. It is very easy to see who is on and where they are in space, and all without a locator or watchlist. You could do this also, if you were able to adapt.

Every alt I own has a red safety, this has brought my friends much laughter.

ChinDownEyesUp Arkaral

We Did A Thing

Probably Up to No Good

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#69 - 2016-05-01 15:43:43 UTC | Edited by: ChinDownEyesUp Arkaral

really sad to hear it, I always saw the devils as the shining example of what i always considered the way highsec mercs should operate. as other have pointed out, it just never was the most optimal way to do things but it was at least possible. now its going to disappear and I will no longer be able to tell people that not all mercs are station/gate hugging cowards. (not that that is true anyways).

while i think the watchlist system was dissolved for other good reasons, it really shows the state of highsec warfare that the last dynamic avenue for merc operation was closed as an afterthought to solve a nullsec problem.

with just a few changes, i think highsec warfare could become something unique and worth preserving without having to make it like null or low, but without a CSM rep or any real voice we are pushed aside for what CCP inevitably considers higher priority features and problems.

Feyd Rautha Harkonnen

Doomheim

Likes received: 2,690

#70 - 2016-05-01 15:47:47 UTC | Edited by: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen

Lord Razpataz wrote:

..
The ones who had no patience or effort for it left to other mass decing operations (just to have easier kills) or burned out and went to a 0.0 retirement home.. waiting for pings.
..

Would you like to know more?


Ralph King-Griffin New Eden Tech Support Likes received: 21,564	#71 - 2016-05-01 16:06:48 UTC 2 Feyd, you moved us to lowsec and all we did there was camp gates at the expense of active hunting before you left for null. Murderers of Negotiable Motivations =]\|[=

The Scope Gallente Federation 0
Frack Toasters The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 0	#72 - 2016-05-01 16:09:51 UTC \| Edited by: Frack Toasters Merc's, lol where to start. The meta game is over for you guys. Pack it up. The rest of EVE pretty much views you guys as clowns anyway. Do some real content. Leave high sec once in awhile. Or just shut up and sit in trade hubs pick off single players at a time because content lel...... Don't forget to mass wardec too


Ralph King-Griffin New Eden Tech Support Likes received: 21,564	#73 - 2016-05-01 16:22:45 UTC 11 shut up anslo. Murderers of Negotiable Motivations =]\|[=

Star Nation Goonswarm Federation 277
Thermal Damage Star Nation Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 277	#74 - 2016-05-01 16:46:04 UTC 4 Ralph King-Griffin wrote: shut up anslo. Always the correct reply to any Anslol statement. I was found guilty of Nitshe by the CoCaP

Kaely Tanniss

Black Lotus Society.

Likes received: 1,070

#75 - 2016-05-02 02:57:06 UTC | Edited by: Kaely Tanniss

Frack Toasters wrote:

Merc's, lol where to start.

The meta game is over for you guys. Pack it up. The rest of EVE pretty much views you guys as clowns anyway. Do some real content. Leave high sec once in awhile.

Or just shut up and sit in trade hubs pick off single players at a time because content lel...... Don't forget to mass wardec too

Another "brave nullsec elitist" judging hs mercs. Cute Roll

Post with your main or gtfo Blink

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..

Sucky

Doomheim

Likes received: 27

#76 - 2016-05-02 07:47:27 UTC

Frack Toasters wrote:

Dj zelo Telepath is salty because shitfit Naglfar and has decided to take out his frustrations on the good folk of CnP with his cyno alt.

Am I close?

Tengu Grib

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

Likes received: 1,581

#77 - 2016-05-04 18:44:35 UTC

Ralph King-Griffin wrote:

Solonius Rex wrote:

Any ideas?

Locator agents not running on offline players would do it for me. id be happily back to work just with that

That's all it would take imo. Get feedback like you do with people in WH's. Or maybe new text. "The target is here, but he seems to be asleep."

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

Demerius Xenocratus

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 815

#78 - 2016-05-05 23:08:22 UTC

Ralph King-Griffin wrote:

Lady Ayeipsia wrote:

As I recall, the buddy list can function as a watch list if the other person accepts the request. I have not tried this but it was how CCP said they would implement the change. In other words, if your friend agrees to you watchlisting them, you will see when they are online. This is why I suggested infiltration may be required now for normal hi sec merc work. Get an alt into the corp. Friendly up to the corpmates, claim you want to join their fleets when they get online and ask them to accept the buddy list invite. It may be harder, but may be doable.

If i can get an alt into a corp i dont need to **** aroumd with the buddy list, i can just look in the corp member list and see who is online,
regardless of this its still a ludicrously excessive amount of work to do on demand (which is what is required now),
moreso than i can give to this game and i have tried ,
i do have a clean unaffiliated account but that should not be a requirement .

Normal highsec Mercenary work is now sitting in hubs and pipes and decking everything that moves within eye-shot.

We will not ,
Therefore we are no longer Mercenary's.

I've long thought that a neutral scout alt should not be a requirement for merc work and a booster alt should not be a requirement for lowsec pvp...the game of alts is real.

The more alts you have to run to play the game effectively, the more money CCP makes.

Demerius Xenocratus

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 815

#79 - 2016-05-05 23:10:20 UTC

Frack Toasters wrote:

I have respect for the guys that actually roam highsec and hunt for targets. The wardec spamming docking ring dwellers are not here complaining because they are not affected.

Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 2,284
Saeger1737 Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion Likes received: 2,284	#80 - 2016-05-05 23:23:02 UTC 2 Atleast I can say I've danced with the devil's in a pale moonlight. Never been a member but always a supporter. MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!

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Devils Rejects 666

The Devil's Warrior Alliance

The Church of Awesome

Pandemic Horde Inc.

Pandemic Horde

New Eden Tech Support

We Did A Thing

Probably Up to No Good

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Star Nation

Goonswarm Federation

Black Lotus Society.

Doomheim

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Habitual Euthanasia

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