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I semi get the complaining but there is a slight difference as these ships main targets are changing. With the addition of T2 Weaponry, there DPS will go up dramatically.

It needs a bit of a test to really see whats going on. A phoenix blasting something that is webbed and painted to death is going to be... well... painful.

It would apply to all dreads to a degree though.

The revelation.. dunno what to tell you there. It might make a good beginner dread :-). We don't know what scorch will truly do to it though.

So much this. Supers with Shadows are so OP its laughable.

The Rev and Phoenix's third bonus seems like something that should be just rolled into the hull instead of being based on Dreadnaught skill levels.

3 bonuses per skill level makes a huge difference between 5 levels in dreads and 4 levels, which is something CCP has been avoiding as of late, see Drone Interface change.

The rev in particular has this problem, since a Dread 4 Rev uses 20% more cap shooting than a Dread 5 Rev. If you balance fits around Dread 5, Dread 4 Revs might cap out while shooting before half the siege cycle was done.

awesome thanks ccp :D

That's a huge plus wahn from me.

There should be a balance on Rev and Phoenix to bring them back into de rigeur. I love the torp phoenix as a pos killer, massive damage per volley, but its poor rate of fire makes its use negligible. Sure it will reload fast though!

And the Rev will not use so much cap doing no damage whatsoever. Fantastic.

You see where I'm going with this? Yet the Moros gets a damage multiplier AND a rate of fire bonus, while hybrids get to take advantage of their natural fast reload timer. Oh don't forget they get a local rep bonus too. All plus no minus.

I'm sorry but if there's balance in this I fail to see it.

The cap reduction and reloard bonus of Rev and Phoenix are inferior to the RoF bonus of the other dreads. But they get a much better tank bonus instead (except burst repair), so I think it evens out. It also follows CCP's design strategy where Gallente and Minmatar ships are more offensive and more geared towards active tanking while the Amarr and Caldari ones shine in larger fleets due to better tank.

However that doesn't rule out inbalance and it does seem rather rushed (even though these changes have been on Sisi for a while now). Like the ASB Phoenix is going to be a ***** now.

Awwww DID YOU BREAK MY PHEONIX AGAIN?!?

Came expecting a rev buff....
Sadly very disappointed.
There is still much work to be done on this.

Still no reason to Fly a revelation, bad CCP.

either make it so that you can repackage stuff in your fleet hangar or nag is the only usable dread because of 2 guns vs 3 and them taking 4k m3 each

For 5x the price? These balls need to be really huge. I doubt that a neutralizer bonus on a Rev is going to be anything but horrible to be fair.