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Plex Prices

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Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1141 - 2016-03-19 22:13:28 UTC
Isk was going to be good to me, but I don't even have any use to get active game time either now.

This is more like a system to investigate which security entities are involved and try to ban me to justify how they try to make me look how they want and make me do what they want.

According to them, I should be the one to damage others, and pay lawyers some tens of thousands, just to be with them, or to make up for damages, they intend on making me do, and hold me liable to.

I don't think that would be a good idea to ask others to join them if they were to try to do this to them as well.



Either way, the fact that the PLEx is back down at 1b ISK, instead of 1.2b ISK or 1.1b ISK until next September, end of August 2016, means that , it will be worth a 20% investment profit on a billion which is not bad, considering it is 200m ISK a unit.
5 units at 5 billion = 1 billion profit, which is easy profit, capital wise.

Of course, it is a far cry from the 400% business profit or 10,000% + cap.

Either way, I have no use for it due to the aforementioned facts.

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.

Aaron Honk
Distributed Denial of Service
#1142 - 2016-04-08 23:46:24 UTC
Will we hit the sub 1B price today ? https://i.imgur.com/ZsV0xqi.png

That 100 units order look strong!

Meanwhile, Dodixie B/O did break the 1B mark ! https://i.imgur.com/o2r4pv3.png

What a time to be alive Shocked
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1143 - 2016-04-09 00:32:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Buzz Orti
Aaron Honk wrote:
Will we hit the sub 1B price today ? https://i.imgur.com/ZsV0xqi.png

That 100 units order look strong!

Meanwhile, Dodixie B/O did break the 1B mark ! https://i.imgur.com/o2r4pv3.png

What a time to be alive Shocked

I of course was in no way predicting this, and of course the prices were only going to go up and up and up.
I mean, it was simply a scientific analysis of the potential outcomes given different possible set of circumstances,
which ...
Well, it didn't quite happened as mentioned (or mentioning), since there was nothing about a war or rabbit ears, brown, white or black.


Edit:
I just bought one plex by the way, at the lowest price, since Buzz Orti was right in that system.
1.007b ISK traded for 30 days to my trader, and, he managed to Redeem the 30 days and confirm it even outside of the region the plex was in (even if there was a 1 or 2 minutes for the inventory asset program to display the card).

Not to mention that someone called the police on me, to make claims of wrongdoing.

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.

Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#1144 - 2016-04-12 17:06:32 UTC
WTF?

What about market manipulation and all that bullshite? How can the price be this low?

Clearly it must be part of a grand cornspiracy by the eveeel masterlords of the the market.

Roll

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Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1145 - 2016-04-12 18:24:00 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
WTF?

What about market manipulation and all that bullshite? How can the price be this low?

Clearly it must be part of a grand cornspiracy by the eveeel masterlords of the the market.

Roll

The one and only grand cornspiracy by the eveeel masterlords of the the market scheme.
There is also the other one, but I don't talk about that.

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.

Tavari Minrathos
PC Load Letter
#1146 - 2016-04-13 16:43:28 UTC
Major Players liquidating for Citadel BPO's and lots of new or low SP characters buying PLEX from to convert into skill injectors.

Add that with a lot of the speculators at the 1.1 or 1.2B price trying to get out of the market over the last few months means a lot of PLEX hitting the market.

Also potentially more than a few vets coming back for the war who might be needing a bit of isk and either dump some of their PLEX stash or buy from CCP to reship.

Due to how SP is now more interwoven with PLEX, I wouldn't be to surprised if we see a plateau for ~6 months
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1147 - 2016-04-13 19:27:04 UTC
Tavari Minrathos wrote:
Major Players liquidating for Citadel BPO's and lots of new or low SP characters buying PLEX from to convert into skill injectors.

Add that with a lot of the speculators at the 1.1 or 1.2B price trying to get out of the market over the last few months means a lot of PLEX hitting the market.

Also potentially more than a few vets coming back for the war who might be needing a bit of isk and either dump some of their PLEX stash or buy from CCP to reship.

Due to how SP is now more interwoven with PLEX, I wouldn't be to surprised if we see a plateau for ~6 months

This would be early August, to early September, as last year, in 2015, and the year before in 2014, and the year before that in 2013, and the other years before then too.

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.

Anthar Thebess
#1148 - 2016-04-14 11:09:58 UTC
Hint from my side.
One of the guys that was doing huge plex manipulation for plex left the game.
Reason : Skill Injectors
He did not sell his stock, but player of his size off the market change a lot.

Next is MBC - it is also founded from some people plex reserve.

Last is skill extractor/injector speculation - you can make much more isk on this, rather than on constantly raising plex price.
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1149 - 2016-04-14 14:23:51 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Hint from my side.
One of the guys that was doing huge plex manipulation for plex left the game.
Reason : Skill Injectors
He did not sell his stock, but player of his size off the market change a lot.

Next is MBC - it is also founded from some people plex reserve.

Last is skill extractor/injector speculation - you can make much more isk on this, rather than on constantly raising plex price.

He probably just went to get a drink with his girlfriend...

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.

Anthar Thebess
#1150 - 2016-04-15 07:26:22 UTC
He was quite angry, that any one can come create character and buy skillpoints, but he did not crash plex price like he intended in first place, so who knows.
Jinto Rinn
Doomheim
#1151 - 2016-04-15 16:20:53 UTC
Well someone is crashing the market pretty hard.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#1152 - 2016-04-15 17:08:59 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
He was quite angry, that any one can come create character and buy skillpoints, but he did not crash plex price like he intended in first place, so who knows.


So he was an idiot.

Here is the thing, if you want to manipulate the price of something...don't put your own money at risk. Look to the Hunt brothers and learn from their foolishness.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1153 - 2016-04-15 18:50:30 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Anthar Thebess wrote:
He was quite angry, that any one can come create character and buy skillpoints, but he did not crash plex price like he intended in first place, so who knows.


So he was an idiot.

Here is the thing, if you want to manipulate the price of something...don't put your own money at risk. Look to the Hunt brothers and learn from their foolishness.

When the PLEx price goes down, the profit per unit lowers, but volume increases, because more people can buy more PLEx.

Since everyone now know that most older players have 2 or more accounts, one of which may not be active without a PLEx use to convert it to a 30 days pilot license extension of ingame time...

We could open a new thread for the spelling parts, if someone wants to hear it.

Perfect for , oh, war time?

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.

Aaron Honk
Distributed Denial of Service
#1154 - 2016-04-16 07:47:09 UTC
Plex prices are going to tank for a little bit

https://i.imgur.com/gAVTe31.png
u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
#1155 - 2016-04-16 18:42:48 UTC  |  Edited by: u3pog
Aaron Honk wrote:
Plex prices are going to tank for a little bit

https://i.imgur.com/gAVTe31.png


Yeah, I think that he/she is happy with the current prices and has 10 days to collect before the release of "Citadels" . In the o7 show there was a financial report, according to which after the release, PLEX might reach 1.2 bil mark...200 Billion ISK, not a bad profit. Of course we all have our hangars full, waiting...for the force to be awaken. Big smile
u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
#1156 - 2016-04-16 18:43:48 UTC
Double post.
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1157 - 2016-04-16 18:54:29 UTC
Aaron Honk wrote:
Plex prices are going to tank for a little bit

https://i.imgur.com/gAVTe31.png



That's a buy order not a sell order. Why would prices tank?
Cixi
#1158 - 2016-04-16 20:21:19 UTC
u3pog wrote:
Aaron Honk wrote:
Plex prices are going to tank for a little bit

https://i.imgur.com/gAVTe31.png


Yeah, I think that he/she is happy with the current prices and has 10 days to collect before the release of "Citadels" . In the o7 show there was a financial report, according to which after the release, PLEX might reach 1.2 bil mark...200 Billion ISK, not a bad profit. Of course we all have our hangars full, waiting...for the force to be awaken. Big smile


What if the prices don't rise ?
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1159 - 2016-04-16 22:12:29 UTC
u3pog wrote:
Aaron Honk wrote:
Plex prices are going to tank for a little bit

https://i.imgur.com/gAVTe31.png


Yeah, I think that he/she is happy with the ...
... , PLEX might reach 1.2 bil mark...200 Billion ISK, not a bad profit. ...Big smile

in parts of million per billion that is.
1,000 PLExes at the 1.2 mark (or 100% of the past current stable plateau, after the back to school sale, not the usual subsequent CCP sales) = does equal to 200 Billion ISK.

1 billion ISK to 1.2 bil ISK = 200 million ISK.
'b' for an 'm' typo and you get a difference of 199,800,000,000 ISK (or 199.8 b ISK).

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.

Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#1160 - 2016-04-17 08:22:11 UTC
Buzz Orti wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Anthar Thebess wrote:
He was quite angry, that any one can come create character and buy skillpoints, but he did not crash plex price like he intended in first place, so who knows.


So he was an idiot.

Here is the thing, if you want to manipulate the price of something...don't put your own money at risk. Look to the Hunt brothers and learn from their foolishness.

When the PLEx price goes down, the profit per unit lowers, but volume increases, because more people can buy more PLEx.

Since everyone now know that most older players have 2 or more accounts, one of which may not be active without a PLEx use to convert it to a 30 days pilot license extension of ingame time...

We could open a new thread for the spelling parts, if someone wants to hear it.

Perfect for , oh, war time?


My point is I don't see how "manipulation" where you try to buy up lots of PLEX will work.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online