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Guys dailies may not be what we should be most worried about. I was thinking why they picked 22 and not just used an easier system. Well this could be used to make things like hourlies getting players to not just do something real fast and log out or go about there day but make sure they need to keep doing the task


ima need a double layer of foil for my hat

So I pay to train my alts SP up since 2008 and now you're giving away a few thousand SP per rat kill? Thanks CCP. I was hoping this was a joke. Terrible terrible terrible idea.

True indeed.

Yeah, people will actually quit over this, I'm not sure CCP realize this.

A manager?

Does anyone live in Iceland and know how to play golf? Or what is the stupid "time-honored" ritual out there?

It's sad that the player base has some people with a large problem of self control but people burning out on optional content is hilarious.

IN A PLAYER DRIVEN FUTURE - CEO EDITION

[11:15] Day 1 after the patch where completing corporation contracts achieved the daily requirement is introduced and the servers have just come online.

Your corp has 200 members who you know will all want their daily reward. You're a "mixed bag" nullsec corp that does both pvp and pve content, including some industry. Up till now you generally had about 50 corp contracts at any one time for your SRP and a few other incentive programs.

Now you'll need to come up with 150 extra contracts at least and you're really worried this will end up consuming your game time, but you realize you have to create those extra contracts or your "employees" will lynch you for denying them the daily reward.

[12:30]

After some considerable time spent stressing about this you're still no closer to coming up with ideas, you're really tempted to have them all just ask for the contract fee in exchange. But the idea is too depressing and you recall the story of CEO Grindar... all those assets he lost, including some of those tasty new citadels... wait, citadels...that gives you an idea.

Due to a certain.... lack of enthusiasm in the corp, you and just a few others have ended up taking responsibility for refueling the corp's citadels. You just couldn't consistently keep up their enthusiasm for mining the nearby ice belt to fuel the citadels. When it got to the point that you were just buying the fuel, you gave up trying to get them to do it as a group. You and a hardcore group have kept at it, but it's getting to "burnout" levels...

Your corp has 4 citadels in the pocket you call home, each using the 3 modules market, clone and reprocessing at just under 1000 fuel blocks per day.. You figure the costs and reckon 200 fuel blocks without payment seems about the right level of effort vs reward, at least to start with, you can always change the numbers tomorrow. That's 20 contracts and you can even have them deliver the fuel right to the citadels. At this point you no longer care if your employees mine/produce the ice themselves, buy it or even steal it. You'll just be glad to get rid of the chore with less than ten minutes worth of effort every day.

[12:40]

So... maybe this new feature can work, but still, coming up with just that first idea was bloody hard, you're not looking forward to it taking you all day to figure this out...you wonder if other CEOs are having the same problem and what they plan to do so you check the forum for ideas.

Funnily enough you find a good one for you 5 pages into a thread on that topic, create "suggestion box" contracts (cargo containers can have 80 character names, short enough to force each suggestion to be succinct/simple). Hell, for today you'll probably get 130 crappy ideas, but you figure out that, again, this is an opportunity to delegate your workload that costs you relatively little effort. Mind you, now you need to put a supply of cheap cargo containers in the corp hangars...

[11:15] Day 2

Yeah...maybe that wasn't such a great idea, 130 was too much for a start, but lesson learned. The case where the one person who'd been allowed 2 alts in the corp had sent the same suggestion 3 times... at least the one where you ended up reading dirty limericks showed he put some effort in.

Funnily enough, the very last suggestion of the day, indeed the last contract to be completed, was a very good one. As the lone player from the APJ region they'll almost always be the last person to complete whatever contract nobody else had felt like doing, which they pointed out didn't seem fair.

So setting up all the contracts at once, also a bad idea, which is kind of a relief, you'll have to get someone else to take responsibility for later in the day as you log-off fairly early in the evening most days. So now you realize you're being "forced" to delegate the work that's so far ended up being used to delegate the work...amusing :)

[11:45]

After talking about it with the rest of the corp management you split the contracts into the following:

-20 Fuel contracts
-10 "Suggestion Boxes"
-30 Ammunition to restock the Free ammo hangar. Previously you just used corp funds to buy a bunch every few weeks, barely even registers as a chore, but now one less thing to think about.
-30 contracts requesting various "modest" amounts of minerals, to fund a 5th/backup citadel.
-60 contracts to be left "open to negotiation with the corp's officers"

[11:15] Day 7

You've been using the new daily system for a few days and after the slightly rocky start things are settling down. The ammunition contracts were really unpopular, you're still not quite sure why. Suggestion box, predictably, is a bit hit and miss, but the dirty limericks have almost become an institution already...

Surprisingly, or perhaps not so surprisingly, the fuel and mineral contracts are the most popular. You're even thinking of expanding it to stock spare capitals and the like, it's even got you thinking about sovnull, that which you swore off so many years ago... whatever happens next, you realize the choices you've made appear to have created a bit of a monster. You're not quite sure why, but when some of the more dedicated pvpers said this "gave them an excuse to hunt down industrial/mining ships" it sent a shiver down your spine...

PS. I wont bother writing the CEO Grindar edition, clearly no one's interested, not even the forum trolls :( I guess I just have to accept that the fact I would strip my characters of all their SP and donate it to charity if this idea didn't work means I'm crazy.

The difference is that one only transfers existing SP and is a net drain of SP (with losses), and the other is a new source of SP.

If you still want to make it a daily... well

You need to have a reward satisfy both conditions:
1) Valuable for everybody
2) Can be ignored without mental discomfort

SP reward isn't satisfy 2-d
Any reward which give player something valuable cannot satisfy 2-d condition

What about reward that will take something valuable? Skillpoints as example.
Take some skillpoints and make them unallocated?

edit
you should make this accumulative
I newer know when I'll need free SP but I'll probably need many

Horry! Good for me, I am looking forward to this.