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CCP, did the removal of the 24hour skill queue reduce the amount of people in space and reduce content eve wide? genuine question

God forbid a company tries to keep a successful business running, do you know how a company remains successful? It grows. Do you know what it needs in order to grow? Profit.

That said, this new mechanic is certainly not that kind of power money grab, it's completely optional, and you as a player are not paying a single real world dollar extra than you already are for it's implementation. If you're even paying anything at all as you could also just PLEX and not give CCP any dollars. So no, they are not compromising anyone's integrity for personal gain with this maneuver.

If you truely feel in your heart that it is still the case they are sellout out (eve though that notion is completely bonkers), you are free to rid yourself of the shackles of eve and go explore real life in further depth. Like this new mechanic, you aren't forced into doing it, just like you will not be forced to stay in the game against your will.

Good point, Rise. But why not AURUM then?
SP for some activity isnt right. From the birth to that day EvE was about "you dont need grind for char progression". And it was cool and unique.

And now you want to add some boring stuff. But in your current version you FORCE pilots to logon. You are not encourage them with some cool reward. No. You say them like that: " If you wont logon and do boring thing you will lose some important stuff".
And SP is damn imortant because the only way you can get SP - training (even injectors - some other guy did it).

So make AURUM as reward. Its unique enough, its "want this stugf" pretty enough. And if i dont want stuff from shop i wont do daily and wont feel "inner empty" because of this. Amount of aurum per day could be realy low - 15-20 (for 450-600 per month - sky will not falling)
In other hand - i have 100+kk SP - I DONT NEED SP AS A REWARD! ITS DAMN USELESS FOR ME!

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Not fun or interesting are my exact thoughts regarding shooting NPCs in this game.

Thank you for coming to us with a more detailed explanation. I still don't like creating SP from thin air as the reward, after being sold on the idea that skill point trading was "ok" because SP would come from other characters.

I think LP can work w/o crashing markets if the reward is unique and interesting. Look at the popularity of the Sisters of EVE combat suit for Project Discovery. Create new, unique items that reward a daily commitment at 3 months, 6 months, 1 year. Something along these lines:

• 3 months of Daily LP: new storyline Expanded Cargohold module, with 1% better stats than T2
• 6 months of Daily LP: new storyline Damage Control with 1% better stats than T2 DCU
• 12 months of Daily LP: selection of new faction navy BC's with 1% better stats than existing navy BC's

You might not, but it what it appears to be, we're not in your brain, we don't know what you think, all we saw is that you jump into those kind of lazy gameplay (yes it is, in every MMO) so how could you expect some of us will not react like that ?

I shouldn't need incentive to log on everyday in EVE other than "It's f***ing fun, this game is awesome", if you need to add such a "feature"(lol), means you failed somewhere else at providing tools for fun.

Whatever you do, for whatever reason, adding such a cheap feature in EVE will appear as a cheap decision, no matter how you explain it. Ask the PR guy in CCP, how it appears to be is as much important as what it really is.

On a personnal note: How do you expect this feature to work on people like me that don't want to shot NPC on purpose for ss or any other "RP" reasons ?

Thanks for better clarifying your objectives.

I understand them, but if you're relating this to the skill queue you're taking things way too far!

In practice, the 24h skill queue limit meant people had to log in, on average, once a week or so. Simply because you'd often have a multi-day or even multi-week skill in training.

Going from once a week to every day is really an exaggeration.

Trying to see this from your perspective, the 'goal' of getting juicy SP needs to be achievable or else most people will just say 'f* this' and give up. For many of us, logging in every day and zapping a rat every single damn day is both unfeasible and obnoxious.

Not to mention doing it on all alts, which really does take time out of the 'oh while I'm logged in I might as well do something else' that you're trying to achieve.


So even if I continue to dislike this idea, for your own good and to actually reach your objectives I believe you should at least:

1) limit it to one char (any char) per account

2) make it a weekly or bi-weekly. or a formula like 'any 2 days/week', doable for example in both days of a weekend


Else I'm afraid you'll only get either people who just don't do it or OCD-type people that just do it robotically and then log-off.

Two big draws of EVE are that 1) the players are mature and almost exclusively adults and 2) the content is open and player-driven. Both of these features are related, and are unique to EVE as far as I have seen in my years of gaming.

1) If we are adults, why release a mechanic which treats us like children? The idea that we need an incentive of killing a boar for our daily XP is insulting to our intelligence. Project Discovery would not have worked in any other MMO, though similar (and much less complex) activities are available as phone apps. Why trust the players with something as intensive as Project Discovery if we can't even be trusted to log on of our own accord?

2) We clearly don't need any kind of daily XP reward to drive content. Surely the results of World War Bee speak for themselves: we were given Aegis and Phoebe, and in return we brought in larger player counts than have been seen in a long time. We're providing the content which drives existing players to resubscribe and new players to join the fold.

With these two in mind, where is the cause for concern about player counts? Is the worry that we will all unsub as soon as the major fighting is over, that we won't find something else to to? Do the people behind this decision not think the Citadel expansion will ride the wave of publicity and players generated by World War Bee to become the single most successful release in EVE history?

We are not always the most reasonable community, and sometimes the Reddit threads can get over the top in their toxicity and resistance to change, but that the some of developers are even considering implementing a mechanic like this betrays a profound distrust of the EVE Online playerbase. If our misbehavior has been sufficient to warrant such a response, despite the revenue we have generated as the result of the war we've been running, then I am truly sorry; additionally, if this daily XP reward system is implemented on Tranquility as described in this thread, I think we will all be very, very sorry.

I continue to loathe this idea.

It's "content" people do not like when it appears in other games.

It undermines the entire "you don't grind for XP" idea that makes Eve different (which was already partially undermined with SP Injectors and I vehemently opposed those).

This spits in the face of your loyal customers. FOMO will just turn the heat up for burnout. All for a disgustingly empty mechanic used to artificially inflate your numbers.

You should be embarrassed.