Player Features and Ideas Discussion

While I do applaud CCP for a speedy response to the war, cashing in on the name and creating some new artwork to reflect, I think you have missed the point..

The war is not against Goonswarm Alliance, the war is against The Imperium Coalition.

The new backgrounds (as cool as they are) represent an incorrect description. Money Badger Coalition vs Goonswarm Alliance.

I am a part of Tactical Narcotics Team Alliance, so why is my part in the war being represented by the 'bee'?


I have no objection to CCP capitalizing on the situation and using it as promotion for Eve, but please don't belittle the situation purely for convenience.


The art team really needs to take a step back and think before jumping all over these things.





*obvious room for gewns trolling, but this is directed towards the art and development of Eve*

*and it begins* nice troll, dude

This isn't a propaganda post, so don't try and make it one.

Neither logo that CCP has made resembles anything that would require royalties, though the bee is a direct relation to goonswarm. The moneybadger logo looks to be a paw print of a badger?

Plain and simple, CCP have represented the wrong side, creating a 'goonswam alliance' logo and not an 'imperium coalition' logo.


the name CFC died a long time ago, along with your attempts to troll post.

gee, someone is ansty today, im guessing you're a bitter vet due to your constant use of the name CFC


The Imperium has used its name for the better part of a year. Their logo, seen here


Im not here to argue any side of this war, i'm stating the fact.. the war is The Imperium Coalition vs The Moneybadger Coalition, plain and simple.

I am not an employee of CCP, so I will not do their work for them, but if CCP choose to capitalize on the situation, they should promote it fairly. (The all-seeing eye is a pretty simple image to recreate)



Now, Rivr Luzade, I know you are going to reply with another witty anti-imperium rant, but please look beyond your salty dislike and see my argument for what it is.. a mis-interruption from the CCP art department.





I used this thread because there was no direct feedback thread for the new backgrounds

And guess what CFC is going to do if CCP uses the all seeing eye. I guess you can imagine the results considering the massive legal trickery that CCP had to resort to when they changed their alliance logo system. Whether you do not want to do CCP's work is kinda not the point in a forum discussing features and giving feedback. But at last you gave at least an indication of an alternative suggestion. I can already imagine how that background would look like: Black base with a white eye-pyramid. And most of the time either the char needs to step aside to see the pyramid (depicting that allies are not as important and have to take a back seat) or cover the pyramid (indicating that they cover the big guys behind them instead of fighting alongside with them, or in other words the perfect representation of the current situation). Well, I can get behind that background.

The leader of the Imperium is the Mittani, and he's a goon. So you get bee's, it makes sense.

But it is a war against goons. Sure, you and other allies of goons are fighting on the goon side, but you're just incidental targets because you're allied with goons.

There are not only more alliances than goons in the Imperium, there are also different mindsets and cultures, just as the MBC has many different sides and cultures at work within it. If it weren't for the Imperium actually cooperating and working together, the MBC would not exist to try to tear it apart, and those groups would be busy taking casual potshots at each other, and the alliances that make up the Imperium.

Without the existence of the Imperium as a whole, this big war would not be happening.

The alliances that make the imperium cooperate and coordinate. We have mixed fleets, and work together very well. But people seem hate to that and are happy to brand the imperium only as "the bad bee people." We're not all bees, yet CCP has aparently taken the stance that we are, so as a feature and an idea I propose that all non MBC or Imperium backgrounds be changed for the duration of the war to themes of peace, love and carebears, heavy on the rainbows, sparkles and pink.

No, not seriously but why would i say such a thing? Because CCP is using this conflict to hype the game, so clearly if you're not in it and you're not waving the flag of the good guys or the bad guys, whoever they are, you don't matter as much. That's crap. Who makes the products that get blown up in huge quantities?

Each side does some production to feed the feud, but both sides rely on supply chains from highsec. Many groups take pride in being miners, manufaturers/producers, or even gankers. But there is no diversity or identity for anyone else. It seems that you're a bee or a badger or blandly inconsequential.

Feature and idea for the purposes of pride and identity for everyone:

Make corp/alliance backgrounds based on already existing cor/alliance logos, with additional icons/decals of a rotatable and scalable nature.

Such variety would also sell the game initially, because when people make their characters now, they have to put some thought and a bit of effort into it, but then for the background only get the same backdrops as everyone else. Yes we have pretty decals in the corners of our ingame info boxes, but click to get a larger picture, they're gone.

When people click on my pic I would like them to see my alliance or corp featured in the background. Well personally it would be my corp logo, cause this picture makes me look completly baked, and a ring of stars could only be surpassed by circling cartoon tweeting little birds.

Come to think of it, i'd love to see that as an option too.

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GONS

While I consider this whole thread mostly a tempest in a teapot, this is an idea I can get behind. Having an auto generated decal behind the character would be an excellent addition.

Also, from the outside looking in, there's rarely been much of an appearance of any functional differences between "Goons" and "CFC/Imperium". SMA, Initiative, and TNT had a bit of independent action, C02 quite a bit. Basically the non renter portion of the Imperium along the outside edges of the Imperium space.

But the core group of long term alliances around GSF, mainly RZR, FCON, LAWN, and EXE, always seemed like seamless extensions of GSF. Deklein, Branch, Tenal. Left your alliances so isolated from the rest of the game that the only times we every really interacted was when you would roll out with the rest of the CFC to go smash something far from home. And that's not a great way to get a reputation as a strong independent alliance.

So the MBC logo should be an IWI theme instead?

Sure, nobody wants to play along and call the other side the imperium, in part because they don't like it (for various reasons), and that's fine. It's part of the war. But considering that the MBC didn't even have an agreed upon nomenclature until a week ago(?), it is very odd that CCP would be so selective in choosing the goon logo. If they followed the same line of thinking on the other side, it would have made more sense to pick one or two of the major opposers to base their background on. And of course there is the matter that CCP chose to base both of its logos on the viewpoints of one side. Rather than letting each side have input on their own or the other. Seems like they only added the goon background as an afterthought.

And seeing as they made their own MBC logo to use, it's not a stretch to make their own for the opposing side.