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What pisses me off about the upwell consortium event.

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Dori Tos
Doomheim
#21 - 2016-01-31 17:27:42 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
They could have do it so you could donate certain materials like particular kind of salvage, particular kind of capital component, particular kind of planetary component, particular kind of research component, and particular kind of ore, and in every category of those, there would be different winner of lottery from different pool of players. In fact they can do the second phase of building these citadels, in that way.

How much Veld do you think Chribba could drop, how many cap components do you think a Goon cap builder could drop. It would not be a competition at that point, it would be a matter of stockpiles made years ago.

The reason they did the competition the way they did right now is that it requires active participation around a new item, even if it is participating via the market you still have to actually be active and not simply drop some stockpile. Which incidentally does not require a combat ship, unless you count gunless exploration ships as combat ships for some reason.

Yes, they 'could' have made a completely new set of BPO's/BPC's/Components for this event requiring purchasing, researching, collection and manufacturing, but the effort involved in that is a huge amount more than making one single new component, adding it to loot lists in sites appropriate to the lore around citadels, and then accepting contracts manually with an event actor.


But how much of their stockpiles would they commit to this anyway? 10 billions worth? 50 Billions worth? 100 Billions worth? I mean, at some point, the reward isn't worth the input anymore. That would definitely work as an equalizer.

And you know, there are other ways they could have done it. Like simply having pilots use their research skills to create the research components, rather than looting them in sites. Again, I'm just throwing out ideas. I'm sure there are people at CCP who can come up with an event designed for industrialist. I just don't think the will is there.

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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#22 - 2016-02-07 17:43:45 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Memphis Baas wrote:


Well, you would have been gate-camped and suicide-ganked to hell, the moment they announced the location. Even in high-sec, but especially if the location is in null, which is kinda where citadels are intended to be. So it still would have been a "combat-oriented" reward. The gate campers would have thanked you profusely for so graciously donating all the stuff to them, to enable them to get the event rewards.

Citadels are meant to be for all areas of space, and amazingly these things called escorts can be had when they know 100% that they will get their fight crashing the known 24/7 gatecamps. So yes, Gatecamps would have happened and this would have been awesome.

The reason however industrialists didn't get to build things is because of the advantage this would give people with stockpiles. How the event is being run no-one has a stockpile of the components. If you had to build things you would have people with stockpiles of at least some of the components.


Except for the market. People who stockpiled money have a literally titanic advantage over everyone else.

On the other hand, people who have no interest in the event are making mad bank right now. P
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#23 - 2016-02-08 12:13:04 UTC
I agree with the OP.

This was just a very short "live event" that favored the current exploration community,

and had Nothing to do with the Industry side of New Eden or that community Shocked

Regards, a Freelancer

ps: CCP Games put some real effort and resources in a proper live events team plz

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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#24 - 2016-02-08 22:23:30 UTC
Freelancer117 wrote:

ps: CCP Games put some real effort and resources in a proper live events team plz

We used to have one a few years ago. They were fired.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2016-04-04 07:18:29 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Dori Tos wrote:

This was a perfect time to show some love to the industrial side of EVE online. It could have been an event dedicated to industrial players. We could have actually built things, and hauled them to the systems where the citadel construction takes place.


Well, you would have been gate-camped and suicide-ganked to hell, the moment they announced the location. Even in high-sec, but especially if the location is in null, which is kinda where citadels are intended to be. So it still would have been a "combat-oriented" reward. The gate campers would have thanked you profusely for so graciously donating all the stuff to them, to enable them to get the event rewards.


So then you have industrial pilots that are happy to have a shot at an event and, yes, some get unlucky, plus PvP pilots that benefit to. It would be like spawning season when the salmon run the rivers in Alaska and the bears are feeding except the bears wouldn't be able to catch ever fish. Again, not a big problem here I don't think.
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