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He is right about the rr though and is even worse when you look at the fax none can fit very well without a load of fitting more or rigs and the shield ones got it the worst

Also carriers can't have a burst tank at all the local reps ate balanced around siege mods making them lack luster outside of siege.


But even if they did tank better the utter lack of space on a chimera is unacceptable

Ok, after some testing I found the source of a significant number of fighter balance issues. It seems that even though skills say they affect fighters, most don't work properly yet. For example, Light Fighters and Support Fighters only give 5% total bonuses to speed/durability despite saying 5% per level. Also Drone Durability, Drone Interfacing, Drone Navigation, and probably Drone Sharpshooting have no effect at all on fighters. That means once the skills actually have their advertised effects, fighters will have roughly 50% more damage and speed, and 25% more durability at max skills.

Thanks for pointing that out.

On Tranq none of these skills say anything about affecting fighters, so this was specifically added for the capital rework. The most important skill that is missing is probably Drone Interfacing, which should give a 50% damage increase. Did you specifically test if this skills is affecting fighters? According do my calculations it isnt, but I never tested it.
When all these bugs are fixed, fighter stats my be actually decent.


As a side not:
The FSU bug seems to be fixed, it now actually decreases the time between shots.

I've tested the effects of every skill except Heavy Fighters and Drone Sharpshooting, and the only one that works right is the 5% per level from Fighters. Everything else is broken at the moment.

On Tranquility none of the skills need to say anything because fighters are drones in every way, so there's no reason to doubt the effects. On SiSi fighters are something completely different but related, so it's important to explain how the skills affect them.

Another bug (or maybe poor testserver performance):

When using fighters against rats, I suddenly got the message "slow down, you cant do that yet, you have to wait 25 seconds". Not sure if exactly this text, but similar. So I could not command my drones for about 25 seconds, every command just led to this window with the timer going down.
Effectively, my carrier was completely shut down for about half a minute. That really should not happen once this goes on tranq.


edit:
just testet it again: its 35 seconds, and this can be reproduced by spamming an ability. Thats really bad if happens. The problem is that with the current mechanic there is a good reason to spam an ability:
Rocket salvo deactivates if you are out of range, so for most dps you need to spam it while the fighter approaches.

thanks, fixed it.

So can someone explain what's up with carriers being able to lock 14 targets or 16 with a Networked Sensor Array active? Is there a new skill coming to allow locking more targets or are they going to ignore the skill limit? If not, that seems pretty useless.

Yep, there's definitely something like that. It happened to me a couple times where I had 3 squadrons use missiles on a target and one or two of them would get stuck. I reported the bug, but it seems kind of weird and hard to reproduce.

Thank you, i'll try it out on SISi tonight

Is there still no icon to indicate which squadron is attacking which target? This whole system is a bit of a cluster &%($... We will adapt but I really hope CCP listens and makes the requested changes.

The resoning behing the cooldown is something I just dont understand. Interceptors and other ships dont need to have their MWD cool down, so why the fighters? They cant keep up with anything otherwise so it is hilariously easy to speed tank a carrier now and we have no light drones to send after them. I guys I would like an explaination for the resoning from ccp or if anyone has a link if its already been discussed?

The cost of fighters seriously needs to be addressed otherwise, breaking carriers out is almost never going to happen outside of large scale ops. I dont understand why we cant rep up squadrons. they can be targeted as a whole by enemies but they cant recieve remote reps? Can be damaged as a whole but not repaired.... See my point?

or maybe give us the option to recall the squadron, put out a new one and right click-> repair. taking that squad out of the fight for x amount of time without forcing us to spend inordinate amount of isk on new fighters?? thoughts?