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Open petition against EVElopedia closure
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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#61 - 2016-03-02 08:26:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Aviola von Yodalgut wrote:
Typical



Before its removal players tended to use other sites because they were better.

Since its been removed all of a sudden people care, pity they didn't care enough before its removal.

Yeah, funny thing about this thread is there used to be an ISD team that specifically looked after the Wiki.

For a long time there was a sticky'd thread here in GD calling for people to join the team. It had virtually no active players as volunteers to help maintain and update the Wiki.

Now it's been removed people are complaining. They could have become an ISD on the relevant team and helped all along.
Valkin Mordirc
#62 - 2016-03-02 08:35:52 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Aviola von Yodalgut wrote:
Typical



Before its removal players tended to use other sites because they were better.

Since its been removed all of a sudden people care, pity they didn't care enough before its removal.

Yeah, funny thing about this thread is there used to be an ISD team that specifically looked after the Wiki.

For a long time there was a sticky'd thread here in GD calling for people to join the team. It had virtually no active players as volunteers to help maintain and update the Wiki.

Now it's been removed people are complaining. They could have become an ISD on the relevant team and helped all along.



It's easier to give a simple /signed then it is to actually put forth the effort to keep something you enjoy active.


It's typical but depressing.
#DeleteTheWeak
Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#63 - 2016-03-02 09:32:09 UTC
Now I come forth to roar the mighty roar. To breath fire and bathe the unworthy in the cleansing warmth of death's embrace.

Okay enough blah -

Now my issue with the wiki going down is this

1: a lot of it needed to go, as it is outdated and worth crap
2: there are parts that need to be replaced; lore, combats sites (as I have yet to find one to replace the wiki)
-- if it was up to me, I would set up a new limited wiki. This limited wiki would cover the lore, combat sites and a handful of other items. Basically what flight academy can't or won't cover. And what can't be read from ingame show info.

"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1

#NPCLivesMatter #Freetheboobs
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2016-03-02 09:36:06 UTC
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Aviola von Yodalgut wrote:
Typical



Before its removal players tended to use other sites because they were better.

Since its been removed all of a sudden people care, pity they didn't care enough before its removal.

Yeah, funny thing about this thread is there used to be an ISD team that specifically looked after the Wiki.

For a long time there was a sticky'd thread here in GD calling for people to join the team. It had virtually no active players as volunteers to help maintain and update the Wiki.

Now it's been removed people are complaining. They could have become an ISD on the relevant team and helped all along.



It's easier to give a simple /signed then it is to actually put forth the effort to keep something you enjoy active.


It's typical but depressing.


Slacktivism ho!

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#65 - 2016-03-02 12:40:36 UTC
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
Again, in my opinion, it was better to shut it down than let it give false infos to New Bros which could cause them making costly mistakes.

Just as i pointed out in original post - there's no resource at the moment, which is
1 - up to date
2 - contains EVE lore and history
3 - officially approved
at the same time.

So there's nothing to replace EVElopedia in full.


Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
Nope, this is GD after all.

It is your god given right to be pathetic.

Evelopedia via Wayback Machine
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#66 - 2016-03-02 13:27:35 UTC
Signed
AOAm Adranas'Lira
Atreidun Order
#67 - 2016-03-02 13:28:30 UTC
Signed
AOSA
Atreidun Order
#68 - 2016-03-02 13:29:44 UTC
Signed
Aviola von Yodalgut
Doomheim
#69 - 2016-03-02 13:33:35 UTC
Well I hope all those that are signing it (I'm not btw) are prepared to help maintain it and not just plan to use it. Otherwise nothing would ever get done.

Regulus Scyssor
Libertalia.
#70 - 2016-03-02 13:45:02 UTC
signed, evelopedia is helpful for beginners

Venture is love
Aviola von Yodalgut
Doomheim
#71 - 2016-03-02 13:52:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Aviola von Yodalgut
Regulus Scyssor wrote:
signed, evelopedia is helpful for beginners



A better petition would be from people that are actually prepared to help in its upkeep (stating that they are), you know making sure it's all up-to-date.


This petition as it stands doesn't mean a lot as the player base wouldn't have changed much since before its removal and we already know what the result was from before.


Edit:

But even if people do say they will help in its upkeep, over time there's the risk that you could end up with the same situation which we had prior to its removal.
Yarosara Ruil
#72 - 2016-03-02 14:10:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Yarosara Ruil
Scipio Artelius wrote:
For a long time there was a sticky'd thread here in GD calling for people to join the team. It had virtually no active players as volunteers to help maintain and update the Wiki.

Now it's been removed people are complaining. They could have become an ISD on the relevant team and helped all along.


Funny you mention that! A few months ago I tossed an application to join the ISD Mercury/YARR team and never got a reply.

So yeah, they kinda gave up on EVElopedia for some time, and the effort to improve it just wasn't there. Good riddance.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#73 - 2016-03-02 21:22:43 UTC
Signed. Sad that the players care more about the lore/backstory of the game than CCP apparently does.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Tumac Shahni
Alderaan Trading CO
#74 - 2016-03-02 22:45:52 UTC
signed
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#75 - 2016-03-02 22:55:51 UTC
Signed
Runeghar Buchner
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2016-03-02 23:45:37 UTC
signed
koenkoard
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#77 - 2016-03-03 01:35:28 UTC
Signed.

WTF is wrong with CCP? Stop taking bad decisions already. It’s almost like they wanted ppl to stop playing the game altogether...
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#78 - 2016-03-03 02:08:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Yarosara Ruil wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
For a long time there was a sticky'd thread here in GD calling for people to join the team. It had virtually no active players as volunteers to help maintain and update the Wiki.

Now it's been removed people are complaining. They could have become an ISD on the relevant team and helped all along.


Funny you mention that! A few months ago I tossed an application to join the ISD Mercury/YARR team and never got a reply.

So yeah, they kinda gave up on EVElopedia for some time, and the effort to improve it just wasn't there. Good riddance.

You're lucky.

I did receive a reply when I applied about 2 years ago.

Unfortunately the process was similar to submitting a full API to join a Corp, but all real life related. A heap of questions that required detailed replies, phone interview...the full works.

I gave up after a few emails back and forth because the process was not very efficient.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#79 - 2016-03-03 02:32:19 UTC
Already used a Google cache of the EVElopedia because the 3rd party sites were insufficient.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Bozar Malukker
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#80 - 2016-03-03 02:35:26 UTC
Signed.