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New dev blog: Little improvements: Making the world a little better pt.2

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Sharon Tate
Cutting Edge Incorporated
#81 - 2012-01-11 18:01:42 UTC
I'll also add support for sorting and filtering of contacts in chat channels, especially local.

Specifically local.
Ethino
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#82 - 2012-01-11 18:08:23 UTC
@CCP Punkturis Are you guys thinking/planning to release a web version of evegate that will allow us to put skills in que rather then constantly having to login ingame all the time?
Ethino
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#83 - 2012-01-11 18:13:44 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Riffix wrote:
These are some great changes and they really make me happy, keep up the good work!

Couple things though:

Question: How can someone be blocked but neither online or offline?


When you add someone to your contacts, you can select to add them to your watchlist (which then makes the notifiaction pop up when that person logs in or logs out). If you don't do that, and block him, you can't see if he's online/offline but you can see with the white icon that he's blocked.

Riffix wrote:
Also, since your making changes that affect the local view, I'm just going to go out and say what I think many would really like that would be most helpful in local, counts of how many pilots of each standing type.

Even with the compact view, if you are in a fleet of 100 and you jump into a system with 175 reds you have to do some scrolling and tallying to figure out even whether you might want to run or fight. But this is precious time you might not have and it would be really helpful to know that immediately.


But SOMEBODY has to have the role of counting those people in a fleet right?? Blink




On a serious note isn't it possible to add numbers on the local bar? lets say total players 12 blue 10 and neutral/red 2 with the appropriate icons near them?
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#84 - 2012-01-11 18:14:00 UTC
Ethino wrote:
@CCP Punkturis Are you guys thinking/planning to release a web version of evegate that will allow us to put skills in que rather then constantly having to login ingame all the time?


I have no idea. I don't have anything to do with EVE Gate or any interwebz related stuff.

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#85 - 2012-01-11 18:17:26 UTC
Super nice improvements, thanks BFF <3333

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Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#86 - 2012-01-11 18:19:02 UTC
CCP

Have a look at this watchlist mockup made by Durzel on the failheap-challenge.com forums

http://www.superficial.net/eve/eve-better-watchlist.png

Bigger bars + visible capacitor levels would be brilliant.
Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#87 - 2012-01-11 18:21:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Unforgiven Storm
CCP Masterplan wrote:
Sakurako Kimino wrote:
love the watch list being made bigger but could you not have made it 20 double what it was why 20 well easy

1 fc 1 wc 5 sc is 7 plus 10 logis (almost standard in fleets to have 1/5- 1/4 as logi) so that 17 plus any others your fc asks you to add ie cyno ships ect


There are performance concerns with increasing the number of watched items too high, as each one is an extra damage update that the server needs to track and send out. Going from 10 to 15 shouldn't be too huge a leap for the hamsters, but we'll be keeping an eye on how this change turns out and review as necessary.


If performance is a issue, why not just only give a bigger list to a logistic pilot or a pilot that has remote reppers installed and this pilot can have 20-25 slots and everybody else gets only 10-15?

And why not go further and make this a trainable feature, why not give 5 default to everybody and if anybody else wants more slots create a skill and make them train for it and give x slots each level, this way only people that needs this will train and have access to the max slot number possible, the rest of the fleet probably will only train for 2 or 3 levels keeping the numbers low and the hamsters happy.

Unforgiven Storm for CSM 9, 10, 11, 12 and 13. (If I don't get in in the next 5 years I will quit trying) :-)
Ghe
Obit Sine Prole
#88 - 2012-01-11 18:21:47 UTC
This is fantastic! thank you
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#89 - 2012-01-11 18:22:29 UTC
Takeshi Yamato wrote:
CCP

Have a look at this watchlist mockup made by Durzel on the failheap-challenge.com forums

http://www.superficial.net/eve/eve-better-watchlist.png

Bigger bars + visible capacitor levels would be brilliant.


I get why you want capacitor, but why the bigger bars?

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Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#90 - 2012-01-11 18:24:16 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Takeshi Yamato wrote:
CCP

Have a look at this watchlist mockup made by Durzel on the failheap-challenge.com forums

http://www.superficial.net/eve/eve-better-watchlist.png

Bigger bars + visible capacitor levels would be brilliant.


I get why you want capacitor, but why the bigger bars?


Why not make use of the space available? Bigger bars increase visibility.
Conventia Underking
Underking Family
Khimi Harar
#91 - 2012-01-11 18:27:13 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Ichuki wrote:
That icon - chat from eve gate - Does this mean that Chat channels will be accessible Out-Of-Game, from Evegate?

Also, is the blue hilighting of your character just for CCP, or will this be a universal change for everyone? it makes it a lot easier to see what your character has written, so I hope it's for everyone


It's just voice chat, should maybe have made that clearer in the picture Smile

Only CCP is blue in chat, sorry Blink


I think it would be useful to have your own character show up in a different color in chat, like green? I mean, obviously, CCP could be special and see themselves as blue, but I'd see myself as green.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#92 - 2012-01-11 18:28:00 UTC
*Starts foaming from the mouth

Somone shoot me.

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TheLostPenguin
Surreal Departure
#93 - 2012-01-11 18:29:43 UTC
Watch list expanded and now managable? WIN
Compact member list? WIN

Rest is kinda meh for me personally but still sensible looking changes, those two are sheer joy thoBig smile

Whilst you're tinkering with the agents list is there any chance we could have the old sorting back as an option, so agents are sorted by their level and not name? Who I'm talking to I have no idea and no need to know really, just that it's the level %whatever% agent in that station, was far easier to see when sorted by level.
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#94 - 2012-01-11 18:30:53 UTC
Conventia Underking wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Ichuki wrote:
That icon - chat from eve gate - Does this mean that Chat channels will be accessible Out-Of-Game, from Evegate?

Also, is the blue hilighting of your character just for CCP, or will this be a universal change for everyone? it makes it a lot easier to see what your character has written, so I hope it's for everyone


It's just voice chat, should maybe have made that clearer in the picture Smile

Only CCP is blue in chat, sorry Blink


I think it would be useful to have your own character show up in a different color in chat, like green? I mean, obviously, CCP could be special and see themselves as blue, but I'd see myself as green.


Green is already taken for some role, I don't remember which one.. I would like to be pink.. you could be.. I don't know.. Orange or something?


(I actually like the idea of you seeing yourself in a different color)

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BeanBagKing
The Order of Atlas
#95 - 2012-01-11 18:33:36 UTC  |  Edited by: BeanBagKing
HORRAY LITTLE THINGS!

Edit: also, capacitor level watchlist would be WONDERFUL!
Conventia Underking
Underking Family
Khimi Harar
#96 - 2012-01-11 18:37:51 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Conventia Underking wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Ichuki wrote:
That icon - chat from eve gate - Does this mean that Chat channels will be accessible Out-Of-Game, from Evegate?

Also, is the blue hilighting of your character just for CCP, or will this be a universal change for everyone? it makes it a lot easier to see what your character has written, so I hope it's for everyone


It's just voice chat, should maybe have made that clearer in the picture Smile

Only CCP is blue in chat, sorry Blink


I think it would be useful to have your own character show up in a different color in chat, like green? I mean, obviously, CCP could be special and see themselves as blue, but I'd see myself as green.


Green is already taken for some role, I don't remember which one.. I would like to be pink.. you could be.. I don't know.. Orange or something?


(I actually like the idea of you seeing yourself in a different color)


This made me thing if the best troll ever... Make every female character's text appear pink on their own screen. (But realistically, it probably wouldn't be hard to implement or make it configurable. If I want to look blue to myself, that should be just fine.)

For God; Salvation is Imperative, but not at the cost of our Humanity!

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Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#97 - 2012-01-11 18:39:30 UTC
Awsome

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
Astrid Stjerna
Sebiestor Tribe
#98 - 2012-01-11 18:40:41 UTC
Unforgiven Storm wrote:

If performance is a issue, why not just only give a bigger list to a logistic pilot or a pilot that has remote reppers installed and this pilot can have 20-25 slots and everybody else gets only 10-15?

And why not go further and make this a trainable feature, why not give 5 default to everybody and if anybody else wants more slots create a skill and make them train for it and give x slots each level, this way only people that needs this will train and have access to the max slot number possible, the rest of the fleet probably will only train for 2 or 3 levels keeping the numbers low and the hamsters happy.


Programming what is essentially a separate list for each ship type or loadout makes the code 'clunky' and pointlessly duplicates an already-programmed system; it's more efficient, from a programming perspective, to have one 'central' system that covers all ships, so that you minimize the time and effort required to make updates.

That said, I have no idea of CCP's internal procedures, but this seems the most logical asnwer to me! Lol

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Aegis Stormborn
Unknown-Entity
Naga Please.
#99 - 2012-01-11 18:44:26 UTC
Very cool stuff! This is what makes us happy CCP! Keep it coming. I REALLY like the new overload upgrades, it will help a lot.

One suggestion though.

The chat channel upgrades are awesome, but can you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE allow us to sort them by standing? Local specifically.
Celebris Nexterra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#100 - 2012-01-11 18:44:51 UTC
This might be the best thing ever.