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New dev blog: Little improvements: Making the world a little better pt.2

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Revii Lagoon
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#61 - 2012-01-11 17:12:16 UTC
Keep up the great work improving the small things, I am looking forward most to the watchlist and local changes! Being a logi pilot will be a whole lot easier now, and my laptop won't cry when I try to load local chat with 500+ people.

One question though, will the option to remove characters portrait's affect the members list and the chat window? or will it affect one or the other with separate options? Personally I would like to see the smug faces of people as we AAAAAA chain in local, while not having to look at the 100 other people in the member list.
Sakurako Kimino
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#62 - 2012-01-11 17:15:45 UTC
CCP Masterplan wrote:
Sakurako Kimino wrote:
love the watch list being made bigger but could you not have made it 20 double what it was why 20 well easy

1 fc 1 wc 5 sc is 7 plus 10 logis (almost standard in fleets to have 1/5- 1/4 as logi) so that 17 plus any others your fc asks you to add ie cyno ships ect


There are performance concerns with increasing the number of watched items too high, as each one is an extra damage update that the server needs to track and send out. Going from 10 to 15 shouldn't be too huge a leap for the hamsters, but we'll be keeping an eye on how this change turns out and review as necessary.



thanks for the reply can i ask how much of a performance issue you guys think adding the extra 5 will add, will it be 50% of the standard watch list server needs or will it be exponential data growth

eve is about sin

Riffix
Synergistic Arbitrage
#63 - 2012-01-11 17:21:32 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:

Riffix wrote:
Also, since your making changes that affect the local view, I'm just going to go out and say what I think many would really like that would be most helpful in local, counts of how many pilots of each standing type.

Even with the compact view, if you are in a fleet of 100 and you jump into a system with 175 reds you have to do some scrolling and tallying to figure out even whether you might want to run or fight. But this is precious time you might not have and it would be really helpful to know that immediately.


But SOMEBODY has to have the role of counting those people in a fleet right?? Blink


LOL, which is fine until it is YOU! P Just sayin'.. Roll


But thanks for the changes, the more UI love the better! You're currently my favorite dev, although I think your looks might be clouding my judgement! Shocked

Lead, Follow, or Get the #@$!@ Out of the Way.
Nirnaeth Ornoediad
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#64 - 2012-01-11 17:22:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Thank you for the compact chat contacts! That is by far the best feature here, especially for Local. (Personally, I don't like Local, but if we're going to have it, it might as well work properly).

And I second Rifflix. Give us counts by Standing Type in Local. For bonus points, let us drag that into another channel (intel channels).

Fix POSes.  Every player should want one (even if all players can't have one).
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#65 - 2012-01-11 17:22:57 UTC
Revii Lagoon wrote:
Keep up the great work improving the small things, I am looking forward most to the watchlist and local changes! Being a logi pilot will be a whole lot easier now, and my laptop won't cry when I try to load local chat with 500+ people.

One question though, will the option to remove characters portrait's affect the members list and the chat window? or will it affect one or the other with separate options? Personally I would like to see the smug faces of people as we AAAAAA chain in local, while not having to look at the 100 other people in the member list.


it's separate options Big smile

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#66 - 2012-01-11 17:23:28 UTC
What's I'd love to see is horizontal bars on the overview so that the overview can have a "tactical overlay" put on it too. The set up for this feature would be a new tab for the overview settings that would have maybe 5 bars that you can set at any meter distance, a color for each and then of course a check box to toggle it all.

This toggling should also be doable via a hotkey.

This way you can have 5 different colored lines that each mean something to you to separate overview entries when sorted by range. This way you can know that as soon as someone passes under the yellow line for instance, they know that it's in optimal :P

I could set it at something like:
Red - Neut range
Blue - Web Range
Teal - Point Range
Orange - Optimal
Yellow - Optimal + Falloff

see? :P

The Drake is a Lie
Anvil44
Avedis Corporation
The Vanguard Syndicate
#67 - 2012-01-11 17:26:25 UTC
Another +1

Probably unrelated but anyone else wave their mouse across space and those annoying 'tool tips' IMMEDIATELY pop up and stay popped up? Makes trying to click on something in space annoying. A way to change the delay time (since I haven't found it yet) would be great.

Keep up these developments, logical improvements are Great.

I may not like you or your point of view but you have a right to voice it.
Nirnaeth Ornoediad
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#68 - 2012-01-11 17:26:58 UTC
Zagdul wrote:
Look mom! I'm famous.



Every time Zagdul updates his portrait he shows more skin. That doesn't count as providing content to your alliance mates, you know.

Fix POSes.  Every player should want one (even if all players can't have one).
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2012-01-11 17:38:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Oxandrolone
Thanks team BFF. I mentioned it in the survey thing but ill say it again here.

These small changes have alot of effect on the game. New features are nice but i think improvements to old systems like the ones your making are amazing.

A massive anoyance i have is that when you board a shield ship from an SMA it comes out at half shield. Why is this neccisary? Armor ships dominate PvP already.

Corporation roles are also an issue especially living in wormholes! It would be nice if CEO's could add new layers of roles into the corp as opposed to just the default ones!
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#70 - 2012-01-11 17:39:33 UTC
I really like the watch list improvements. A lot. A lot a lot.

Thanks!

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
CynoNet Two
GSF Logistics and Posting Reserves
Goonswarm Federation
#71 - 2012-01-11 17:40:59 UTC
Great stuff here. Here's some more for next time!


  1. Let us 'Stack All' items in a corp hangar / drone bay that's nearly full just like we can in a cargohold. It's really frustrating having to pull items out of a corp hangar then drop them back in again just to stack them together.
  2. A 'Fit Stack to Ship' option, allowing you to fit multiple identical modules to a ship from a single stack. For example; adding 8 turrets at once.
  3. Let us move quantities of items with a shorthand. For example; rather than typing 10000000 in the quantity box we can instead type '10m'. Or '300k' instead of '300000'. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease.
Komen
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2012-01-11 17:42:52 UTC
I haz a happy. Nice changes!
Visione
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#73 - 2012-01-11 17:44:26 UTC
again, nice work CCP :D
Granix Uvelian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2012-01-11 17:48:17 UTC
Love the changes!

Now if we could just fix the market data export to allow exporting of the historical data.... Big smile
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#75 - 2012-01-11 17:49:18 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Blog wrote:
We know the tiny overload button isn‘t the best to click when you‘re panicking.

Big Understatement... Ugh

Thank you for the Overload improvements.

Proud to be Panicky.

Indeed.

I for one hail our new Overload Overlords (and Duchess of course).

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
CCP Masterplan
C C P
C C P Alliance
#76 - 2012-01-11 17:50:45 UTC
Oxandrolone wrote:
Thanks team BFF. I mentioned it in the survey thing but ill say it again here.

These small changes have alot of effect on the game. New features are nice but i think improvements to old systems like the ones your making are amazing.

A massive anoyance i have is that when you board a shield ship from an SMA it comes out at half shield. Why is this neccisary? Armor ships dominate PvP already.

Corporation roles are also an issue especially living in wormholes! It would be nice if CEO's could add new layers of roles into the corp as opposed to just the default ones!

The issue where shield bonuses leave you with uncharged shields when boarding in space (or when jumping through a gate, for fleet bonuses) should be addressed with this release. If the ship had fully-charged shields before it was affected by a bonus, it should keep fully-charged shields once the bonus has been applied. I recommend you test your particular case on Sisi, and see if you notice any improvement.

"This one time, on patch day..."

@ccp_masterplan  |  Team Five-0: Rewriting the law
mkint
#77 - 2012-01-11 17:51:26 UTC
Quote:

In the compact list, there‘s no portrait


Best change since the portraits were first introduced. Having a chatlist full of silhouettes (still annoying that I have to remove portraits manually by changing OS settings) is a massive waste of space. +1000 internets

I can't find any changes to be cynical about in the devblog... You may have won the internet.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#78 - 2012-01-11 17:52:54 UTC
mkint wrote:
Quote:

In the compact list, there‘s no portrait


You may have won the internet.



FINALLYCool

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#79 - 2012-01-11 18:00:07 UTC
Nice, but i hope you got something beter realy Attention

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
SirFur
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#80 - 2012-01-11 18:01:24 UTC
Awesome UI changes!

LOVE EM!

Keep them coming!!!