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Oh, Dear God. Yes. So. Much. Yes.

Thanks TurtlePower

Can you please get someone to have a look at the tab function window behaviour while the UI tweaks are going on?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=464454

Please??

The new tracking camera mode is a step in the right direction. Thank you for that.

Now if you could just RESTORE the ability to have the camera always keep my ship in the center of the screen, it would be the perfectly adequate system we had before someone decided we needed shiny fluffy glittery stuff to replace it.

edit to clarify the problem:

I've tinkered with camera settings and can't find something that will do this. I'll describe the current behavior, and the problem it creates:

I click a celestial. The camera spins rapidly to center on it. This is good. Then is does this slow zoom/pan thing where it moves my ship out view. This is bad. I've lost my frame of reference and just have a pretty view. I click other celestials and the camera just rotates. I've lost any sense of my ship's relative position on the grid. If I zoom out, I see my ship off center and clicking a celestial does a rapid turn and then the same slow pan, resulting in an odd illusion where my ship appears to be moving while it is sitting still.

What I want: Camera always points at my ship. I click a celestial, it rotates about the ship to bring the celestial into center view. Now I can see where my ship is, the camera doesn't do and stunts, and I don't have to wonder if things are lining up the way I intend them to.

It should be as simple as adding checks for turning off that panning and keeping the ship absolute center.

I like HOW the camera moves, just not WHERE it moves. Give us a bit more control and I think most of your userbase will be happy.

If they actually ask for feedback before the change things that drastically it would safe them so much time. The drifting off camera was sold as a "feature" regarding to the dev blog. Same with the chase mode that doesn´t seem to work all that good. So someone spent some time to code something that should go right to the bin.
Again, there is a golden rule in coding that too many programmers simply ignore for one or another reason. "Perfection is reached once you can´t remove anything anymore without losing functionality." If you add something new, make sure it is simple, functional and not too far off from what people are used to. There is no need to invent the wheel again but simply keep it rolling with less friction. Once you achieved that you can start make it look fancy if you want but don´t overdo it or maybe no one is realising what it is anymore. :)

Tracking toggle is a welcome fix, however the big issues with the tracking camera remain.

- Tracking needs to focus on your ship and keep the tracked target inline, not offset my ship to the left by a huge amount at any close zoom level (literally makes my ship disappear unless zoomed massively out)
- Tracking camera needs a custom tracking posistion instead of hard locked to the right like it is now.
- Using any camera offset to the left will make your ship disappear during tracking at any zoom level because of the previous two issues

Adding to all the other concerns:

RE: the right-click look around that has been removed with the new camera: firstly, this is a horrendous "design choice" and it should be re-implemented. It's a huge loss of functionality. However, what makes it worse is that this functionality remains in the hangar view. Nothing jars like a loss of functionality, except when that same functionality is possible in certain situations and not others.

Also, while we're on the right-click look function, can we have the related zoom function back (right click and hold, move mouse, hold both mouse buttons and move to zoom)? It offers a higher degree of zoom than the new camera, which if you insist on making killmarks tiny really helps to identify them.

If you have to put new features into the game, please make sure they provide an improvement on the old ones CCP.

The new map looks cool and funky but still doesn't provide the functionality of the old one. Probing is still terrible months and months later.

The new camera is in exactly the same situation - looks great but plays terribly.

Sluggish, dysfunctional, unintuitive.Frankly it's a terrible piece of design and is game breaking for me.
Might be great for using the upcoming new capital features and looking at Citadels but it's disgustingly useless for the rest of the game currently.

From the moving of the D-Scan button from one side to the other to the shoddy camera angles, to the nauseating movement to the lack responsive movement to the new delayed D-Scan. Every stage has been lacking and still is.

Breaking the old camera whilst trying to 'fix' the new one post DT last night left me feeling that it was an intentional ploy to force me to use the new one. I rage quit the game for the first time ever .

Like many others, I don't like having substandard features forced down my throat but I can deal with it if I can see that the final product will be worthwhile.

The camera appears to be heading down the same road as the map and I'm told I've got no options but to use it. Really??

Nice work guys!



Yes I'm mad, no you can't have my stuff.

1. Why is it called the orbit camera when it doesn't seem to orbit?

2. PLEASE put in an auto-tracking of selected item. It's all I want the camera to do.

I restarted my client and launcher but I'm still getting the horrible marquee select when I hit refresh DScan. Adding a hotkey for refreshing DScan was one of the most amazing quality-of-life improvements and now it's all screwed up.

All I want is to hit Dscan, and refresh the dscan window. I don't want that button to do anything else. Now I'm habitually hitting that key and it's screwing up my piloting so I have to remove the hotkey until it's not all stupid and useless again.

The autotracking is an improvement, but there's still a ways to go:
1. We need the custom and centered tracking positions--the new camera is not placing the ship in the right position at all when tracking is on.
2. Do not track to objects on ctrl-click (target lock). Prelocking the next few targets doesn't mean we want to track them (yet).
3. Maintain zoom amount through session changes (like jump gates).

Like I said--it's better, but I still have to turn it off to actually play the game.