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I'm another "lurker", but I just have to put my 2¢ in on this issue.

I tried the new camera several times--I really want to like it, but there are too many show-stoppers. While I don't get the motion sickness, I do find the new camera very difficult to control. It looks to me like most of my issues are bugs, and I'm hopeful that they'll be corrected in the coming days. Among these issues:
1. When I track an object, the camera slides my ship out of the frame at the end of it's spin. I have to zoom way out to get back into the frame. Now, I just bought a nice new ship skin, and I would like to be able to see it while I'm flying around. ;-) Plus, and this is far more important, without the ship in the frame it's difficult to judge the relative positions of tracked objects.

2. When stop tracking, the zoom pops way out and I can't zoom back in on my ship. If I switch to first person and then back to orbit, it clears up, but that's a cumbersome work-around.

3. The camera will, seeming randomly, jump to an arbitrary angle. Suddenly I'll be looking up at my ship from below, even though there's nothing above me.

Those are what I believe are bugs. The one feature that is a show-stopper for me, as so many have mentioned already, is auto-tracking. It may seem that "hold down the C and click" isn't that much of a burden compared to just clicking, but it really is. I have all of my important modules on the top row, and I set auto target-back so that I generally don't have to ctrl-click to target (in PvE). I keep my left hand poised over the function keys so that I can fire/boost/rep/after-burn without looking at the keyboard. Moving my hand to the C key every time I want to change tracking completely messes this up, and slows my reaction time down considerably, as well as increasing the chances of pressing the wrong key in the heat of action.

Also, I'm one who very carefully sets up my custom tracking positioning, so having the camera decide what the "best" relative position of my ship to the tracked target would not be something I would be happy with. I imagine it wouldn't be good for people making videos, either--it seems to me a good cinematographer would want a great deal more control of the camera positioning and movement than the new controls give them.

I hope you are considering a way to reinstate the auto-tracking. I think this new camera could be an improvement if these issues are addressed.

Ok, I tried the new camera, I gave it a chance, but it just dosn't feel right. I've gotten too used to using Auto-track and clicking on the overview to orient myself against celestials, hitting C is one step too many. Why did you throw out the "Auto-track" options from the old camera? You even had a pretty UI icon for them.

I keep right-clicking in orbit camera mode to pan the camera around to look at things - and nothing happens. Tactical is useless, because of this habit. The whole "not remembering your tactical overlay setting if you switch modes" thing makes it worse.

The ship speed offset option and the Dynamic FOV settings are terrible, and made me feel motion sick until I killed them. I don't normally get motion sick from vidyagames.

I have not met one player who likes this new camera.

If it isn't broke then don't fix it. Learn to make a camera that feels like the old one. This camera is laggy as **** and is missing features that the old one had, but worst of all it just feels off. What the hell is wrong with keeping an option for the old camera. There is nothing wrong with that. goddamnit...

Just... listen to the players for once in your life ...


RAGING AT THE MOMENT

After tweaking the new orbit camera speed and unchecking all the features of new camera it feels much like the old one. But, I still cant zoom out as far as I could earlier, so its a detriment. Also I cant use pan feature with it. So its another detriment. Not that I used zoom out so much, but some people do. Also pan with alt +F9 was a quick way to make a nice screenshoot for me. So I think it is more of an issue for me.

You also broke the D-Scan on the old camera mate. Thanks.

Thanks !! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

Couple of things still not ok (while toggle is ON), in my opinion :

1.Offset :
While tracking, the ship is still offset from the center of the screen.
It's not very disturbing when zoomed out far, but it is when zoomed in close.
Ship sometimes appear behind the field of view.

2.Zoom reset.
After a jump through gate (might be through bridge as well, i've not tested it) the zoom distance i've chose is reset to very up close and my ship is completly out of sight, like completly behind the camera.

3.DScan Result :
Delayed result is ok for me.
Though line by line could be very annoying to wait for quick intel through DScan result recap sites that ask to CTRL+A / CTRL+C / CTRL+V.


Proposed fixes :

1. Offset :
- Make the 'Offset' thing a general option in Camera Settings, not only for the ship speed.
If you choose not to then :
- Add a "reticule" at the center of the screen when toggle track is on, to prevent the feeling of not actually DScanning what a player has selected.

- Reduce the offset importance the more the camera is close to the ship.

2.Zoom reset :
Well you should know better. :D
That's mostly pure codish i presume.

3.DScan Result :
If you really want to keep that sort of fade-in delayed display then make it for the WHOLE result, not line by line.

If you don't want to, then, there should be some kind of 'logic' behind that.
As if the Directionnal Scan would display the result of close by objects quicker than further ones.
Which is not the case, because the result depends on the collumn one's chose to sort the list with.
Name / Type / Distance

Thank you so much for the toggle on/off even if it needs tweaks still :D
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I'm happy that you've added a toggle to enable tracking on the new orbit camera but I feel it could be tweaked slightly.

At the moment if I click onto different items on my overview the tracking camera swings or flips so quickly it is disorientating. Slow it down just a tad and it should be fine.

One thing at a time. I'm sure that will be fixed sometime soon, but there's only so much time to work on stuff. The biggest and most widespread complaint was lack of tracking toggle, so they addressed that first. The second biggest complaint seems to be nausea, which is a lot harder to work on. After that, there are numerous things to work on, and I'm sure they're well aware that the ship offset when tracking is disliked by a lot of players. They'll get around to it eventually.

Ok, a tiny step in good direction.

But:

- why do you add 5th shortcut key, when there're are already 4 dedicated to the tracking camera ?

Forgot about those ?

Tracking Camera: Center Tracking Position
Tracking Camera: Custom Tracking Position
Tracking Camera: Toggle point camera to selected item
Tracking Camera: Toggle Tracking Position Mode

- the ship is not in the center, and the camera changes zoom
- when we turn off tracking in orbit mode, the camera doesn't even go back to the ship
- where is custom position ?


We need classic toggle camera back: custom/center position, own ship in the center always, no zoom games, use existing keybinds.

How hard is that to understand ?

So now that d-scan doesn't work at all for me, who wants my stuff?