EVE General Discussion

Maybe the majority of people that cared enough to rebels and shoot things are gone already…
Btw a big part of what, I'll wrongly call "EVE Mythology", is gone, so I'll add a sad rants on the forum.

I feel sad now seeing this happening.

They also want to keep the game running for another decade. The ever-increasing catch up time was hurting new player retention.

As any of us know that have been playing for a while, SP is not that important. And it isn't. It's what you do with it that's important. And you don't need a lot of it to do some fun stuff.

Here's the thing. Most new people coming from other MMOs can't wrap their coddled little carebear brains around the difference between SP and experience. So they have a hard time getting into this game not because of the SP disparity being important, but because they perceive that it's important and they are not easily dissuaded from this idea.

So CCP are wisely using that unshakable belief to attract and keep new players. New players that would quit because they are indoctrinated into the common MMO dogma that more SP makes you a better player and they can never hope to catch up to the vets. New players that will soon learn that this game is different, but not until after investing a lot of time and money into it thus making it worth their while to stick around and acquire some actual experience.

The more I think about it, the more I truly believe that this new mechanic is possibly the best idea for new player attraction and retention that CCP could have come up with.

Mr Epeen

"Look at my huge space wiener, you peasants, me so beaucoup huge, omfg he's so huge!!!!!111!" That's why!

This.

There are a huge amount of bad reviews for EVE left on many sites around the net. Go to any review site and you are guaranteed to find someone crying about not being able to catch up to vets. It's like their brains have been warped by other games, and if they can't be a special snowflake in a game played by thousands of people, then they just aren't interested.

He burned way, way more creating that Frankenstein. To go from 80 million SP to 473,344,000 he burned 1,180,032,000 SP. He probably came damn close to burning 3x the SP he has.

They can't add this back. Training is a linear function of time and number of characters (lets skip remapping and implants). What this character represents is a shift to another growth line that is lower yet parallel to the initial growth and this shift is permanent.

So, SP farms will not alter the fact that somewhere around 1.3-1.4 billion SP were permanently sunk out of the game.

I'm waiting to see the first bad review telling us how they tried this game called EvE and for just a few thousand dollars you can now reach level cap in a day.
Monoclegate gave the reviewers a fine time, so I fully expect to see at least one reviewer without a clue going "level cap token in most mmo's is a few dollars but it's a few thousand or grind for years in EvE !"

I hope CCP (or maybe Chribba if eveboard could pull data on it ?) gives us some statistics on how many SP's have been lost from the overall capsuleer pool total with the diminishing returns total on injecting.
Would also be interesting to see the SP average distribution of characters now compared to before injectors (how many 20-50m characters have been lobotomised to feed high SP mains etc).

Hmmmm...wonder if we'll see some inflation as a result of skill injectors....

Chribba's data won't offer a complete picture, and will likely be missing much more at the low end of the spectrum than the high end so it wouldn't give a good picture of an SP distribution.

As for SP lost from the game Chribba's data could give us a lower bound for that number.