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That's even worse than hitting c and then v. What other command in this game do you just hold and keep mashing a keyboard key? It is high level poor game design. You are trapping a hand in one position. I see no way that this is an acceptable option and is also very disabled unfriendly. There should NEVER be a case where you just have to keep mashing one key continuously.
I would be fine with a click object and then hit v to dscan as long as hitting v moves the camera. Holding the v key down all the time is a terrible idea from a UI standpoint.

I'm fine with working with the new camera. However, the current game design questions on the tracking function make no sense to me. What is the reason for this design choice? There is no apparent logic why it has to be done nor why the old camera has to be shut down in the next patch. You still haven't turned off the old map interface so what is the big rush? From a game design decisions, these stated directions make no sense. I understand wanting to get rid of the old camera code but if it is going to make gameplay worse, it makes more sense to not remove the old camera until a suitable solution from a UI and gameplay standpoint can be designed.

I've submitted a support ticket for this as well. But so it gets out to more devs I want to add it here:

Pan camera bound to right-click sucks. When I right-click on a station or for a right-click menu in space, it pans my camera off center. I want to bind that to something other than one of my primary EVE buttons.

I've bound Alt-1 (Tactical Camera) to a G-key as a return-to-center shortcut for the camera. That works well enough.

I've un-bound Track completely because until it becomes useful somehow I won't use it.

If right-click pan is a setting in shortcuts I can change, please enlighten me. I can't find it.

Not mashing down, just keep it pressed down (once) then click whatever targets you want dscanned with narrow cone. Sure I still prefer old trigger appraoch, but FWIW 'v' better than having to press 'c' separately for each entity.

The overview icon change, and the custom choices still not being choices, put my plan to get more PvP experience (so I don't suck quite as bad as I do now! Ha!) on the shelf. I can't see the detail on smaller icons to know which is which at a glance. Bad eyesight, even with updated glasses, won't give the clean, clear crisp detail I need.

If the old camera is removed as is CCP's currrent plan in a month or so, I won't be able to play at all, even hiding out in asteroid belts or mission sites. The clean, crisp, clear, and precise detail and control from the camera won't be there. Instead it's camera on a bobber on a high wind advisory day at the lake. No. Due to the same eyesight problem that is nixing PvP experience gaining combined with the vertigo this new camera is triggering while it wanders where I did NOT tell it to go, are issues I can't just 'work around, tweak settings, and accept without other options' with force of will, determination, and sheer guts. Sorry, can't force my eyes to 'evolve' back to a perfect 20/20 diagnosis.

Old camera goes, so do I. Nothing too personal CCP. Just an entertainment dollar business decision.

>Jeven

Fun fact: it is almost no where true where the person writing the code is also writing the requirements.

The developers have a list of user stories:

"A user can use a modifier key to scan an object by clicking on it"

"A user can view a delayed D-Scan"

"A user can view a camera that tracks an object selected"

etc.

Within those stories are often pictures, descriptions, and acceptance tests that define what constitutes a "passed" story.

When you give feedback, some of that feedback is stored in the form of these tickets, those tickets are generally assigned points, and then pulled into the scope of work for a sprint. Sprints are generally 2 weeks. Now, a lot of the internals of CCP has changed in recent years, but that is the fundamentals of Agile development.

Whether or not a coder play's the thing they code for actually means very little. That would be like saying an interpreter at a concert has to also listen to that artist's music. You don't, you just take the requirements, fill them, then send them off to QA for review.

I only say this to offer clarity to what is going on behind the scenes of this big discussion.

Another day another try. I really want to get used to the new cam since I have to but the tracking thing is still not working.
I unchecked all the fancy yet useless features and put the speed to max but when I try to use the tracking it does weird things.

- Shortkey doesn´t work except I hit it twice

- When I hit the tracking shortkey twice it feels like the cam is getting "unlocked" from my ship, snapped back to somewhere left/right/above or below my ship and than focused on the object I like to track. Seriously, what is this good for? The same happens when I use "track" on the the selected item window. Now matter how you are trying to sell this as a good feature it is simply a ship killer.

- Using d-scan with the new camera and the new map is simply not efficient at all. Since there is no real tracking anymore it´s not possible to d-scan properly using the map. You have to adjust in space while keeping and eye on the map. So the whole new feature on the map with the d-scan bubble/cone became pretty much useless for d-scanning.

Last but not least it seems that some of the old shortkeys are mixed up with the new ones. It´s kinda trial and error to find the correct shortcut for the new features. Yes they are in the tooltip but these tracking cam toggle shortkeys are not working at all or I am simply a little to slow in the head to figure out how to use them.

Long time lurker, first time poster.

I'm one who has opted out of using the new camera at every stage. I did it for one reason...

I love the simple functionality of clicking on an object on the overview and looking in that direction.

Please provide this function with the new camera. I don't want to hold down a button AND click on the the object in the overview - to me it's a step backwards.

Kind regards,

Dhugall

Can you please give us an option to get rid of the camera inertia when rotating (that is not speed btw) so we can get fps style rotating responsiveness. That would be a huge improvement for those who want more precise control of their view.

Thank you

New camera is rough on my eyes. Give us the option to permanently keep the old camera

Doesn't matter what process they are using to collect player thoughts - it isn't working.

Some actual experience using the things they are messing with would go a long way in stopping the implementation of just plain bad ideas. For example - they changed notifications to add a red flag for every toon that does not have an active skill queue, even if one of the toons on the account is actually training. Anyone that **actually** plays the game more than once a week would know that was a very (insert derogatory word here that ISD won't get their panties wadded over) thing to implement. It's annoying and promotes that CCP is just going for money grabs right now.