EVE General Discussion

I learnt planning and patience a long time before I started playing EVE.

Where skills from the skill queue are concerned it's not hard although your patience can be tested sometimes as they're time gated with ridiculously long times for a game.

I begin to think that Skill Injectors are a cash grab before CCP sells EVE to Perfect World, EA or some other company that can squeeze out the last blood from a stone.

I said this would happen. No one believed. I'm better at seeing patterns then most though.

I saw this coming when aurum was introduced. Once you open the door.

If memory serves, the money grabs started getting bad again after Soundwave left.

You can argue this isn't as bad as it seems. The joke on you is this is no where the end of it. You allow this crap to happen, it opens the door for more BS that will effect something you care about eventually.

There is more game ruining, money grabbing crap to come SOONtm

No, plenty believed it would happen, but most didn't see it as an issue. The only ones who do are those who consider SP as a valuation of their time in game and hold that as something significant. Well, those and people who view SP as "earned" advantages that certain players or characters should be disallowed by age.

This is the kind of thing one tells himself when he really can't (or does not want to) understand the reasoning of other people. It's proof of a disingenuous personality.

It is actually possible to care about an issue that doesn't negatively affect you personally (well, directly anyways). I put no value on skill points, which is why my highest SP character stopped training after about 90 mil skill points. But I do care about the game we play, and this SP trading is a disastrous mistake.

One of the best things about CCP was that (with the exception of monoclegate) they were one of the few non-cash grabbing game companies. They asked for a fair price, and gave fair access to a good product. Unlike very many companies (not just game companies, telecom companies are the worst), CCP didn't play the 'get you in, gouge you, and offer ever better incentives to new customers so they can get gouged too, and screw the loyal existing customers' game. Until now that is.

I like many CCP employees, and few have been as outspoken of his support for CCP than I have. That moral support of CCP is no longer the case, because in doing this they proved (for the second time in 13 years) that they are just another greedy game developer.
There is zero compelling in-game reasons to make the move they made. It entrenches the rich. It tells the new player "here is an easy to use short cut, just give us more money up front" It sets those same newcomers up to fail as they don't have the personal experience to USE the SP they bought meaning they will be nothing more than joke killmails after a while.

Up till this month I used to pay cash for 1 sub and plex the other 3 because that made sense for me. Now I have a stack of PLEX, enough for several months so far (and this from only draining 2 alts). I've profited in game and out from this (saving that 15 bucks means 2 more trips to Burger King this month, woot), and I still think it is a horrible example of a company selling out the previously held principles that made it great in the 1st place. At the end of the day it's just a video game, but it's still a shame t see this happen.

Watch him be banned, too.

This is the kind of post one resorts to when they themselves simply want to do a character based devaluation of an opposing viewpoint. They'll object to the idea that people can read and judge the objections for themselves without having some inherent flaw.

Further they'll tell you that the only way to "understand" the objections is to agree with them.

But to your direct points Jenn:

I'm still not sure how anything but willful blindness results in the conclusion that CCP hasn't offered incentives to any level of customer, whether it be from the new player who heard of the bazaar, the player who didn't want to grind and used plex or now the player who didn't want to wait and used injectors.

We have concrete examples of this working principle in place and have had them for some time. I can certainly see being upset, but that is a very literally self inflicted attitude change rather than an actual, tangible gameplay change. But considering that your own willful buy in of this mechanic is something that you characterized as being too good to pass up and thus compulsory speaks to your ability to conflate that opinion of yours with the concept of a game originating fact.

And really there should be nothing wrong with pointing that out. Own your own decisions and values please.

Not only you, we all have lost this man to.... gulp...injectors.

They have changed something eventually.
But its your choice.

EVE is not what you are thinking it is. Its just an experiment, social experiment. They are testing adaptation of human mind to quickly changing environment. The winner will get all icelandic exotic dancers and a ton of hakarl.