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EvilweaselFinance
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#161 - 2016-02-14 18:46:42 UTC
Good for him. Too bad he beat Aryth to it.
EvilweaselFinance
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#162 - 2016-02-14 18:49:11 UTC
we have truly lost something with the demise of the ability of 2003 players to always have more SP than new players
Khanid Voltar
#163 - 2016-02-14 18:56:24 UTC
I think this change sucks
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#164 - 2016-02-14 18:57:28 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Hairtrigger wrote:
well, thats it for me folks.

got 3 days left of my subs ive been paying for since 2004.

should of seen the writing on the wall years ago when all the original devs started jumpng ship and they started hiring people like fozzie, verone, kill2 etc.

but this latest money grabbin tactic by hilmar is just too much.

been saying this for years, that incompetent tool needs sacking.

he is slowly kiling this game like a cancer


could i please have some of your SP?

FTFY

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Titan's Lament
Mishra San
#165 - 2016-02-14 19:03:34 UTC
Admiral Mason wrote:
http://eveboard.com/pilot/IronBank

Make of it what you will.


Holy Skill Injectors, Batman!

LMAO.

He just won EVE.

sending virtual hug, virtual hug sent !
Krevnos
Back Door Burglars
#166 - 2016-02-14 19:08:09 UTC
Tippia wrote:

I have no interest in catering to this design error, and since the people who actually benefit from it are older players, they fall outside the intended audience for such a plan.



I absolutely agree with this point. You and I can manufacture customised alts to our hearts' content simply using our amassed in-game wealth. Something feels cheap about this, even considering the ability to purchase alts on the character bazaar (which are almost never perfectly trained for what we need).

New players. on the other hand, are inveigled by CCP into buying skill points for real life money through in-game advertisements whenever they open their skill queue. It isn't exactly a subtle advertisement, either.

While it is still some way off, the experience of EVE is starting to feel just a little like an East Asian F2P theme park MMO. I fully expect this game to go F2P within the next 12 months with optional skill training acceleration for subscription/PLEX together with paid for vanity items (already partly implemented) and possibly other special items.

I think it's time we sat down and had a serious discussion about the application of 'pay to get ahead' in EVE online. It's being pushed at us by the developer and the onus is on us to decide what constitutes acceptable and unacceptable business practice in this arena.
Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
#167 - 2016-02-14 19:09:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Deck Cadelanne
Lan Wang wrote:
PsiMin wrote:
Lathael wrote:
This destroys a lot for me. Ouch.

Can someone do the math for me and tell me how much that costs?

Thx in advance *sigh*



CCP has destroyed this game as its now P2W


yawn so ironbank is officiallly the strongest and most elite character in the game, undefeatable because he paid to win and nobody is as high ranked as him because thats what pay2win is right?

its not winning its just epeen, nothing more, showing off how he has so much isk to be able to do pointless things


He is not undefeatable. No one is.

EDIT:

My reaction was too harsh to the comment I was replying to. So I apologize and retract it.

There is no reason to get upset, or even care, about Ironbank's stunt. Literally.

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."

- Hunter S. Thompson
EvilweaselFinance
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#168 - 2016-02-14 19:10:45 UTC
Deck Cadelanne wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
PsiMin wrote:
Lathael wrote:
This destroys a lot for me. Ouch.

Can someone do the math for me and tell me how much that costs?

Thx in advance *sigh*



CCP has destroyed this game as its now P2W


yawn so ironbank is officiallly the strongest and most elite character in the game, undefeatable because he paid to win and nobody is as high ranked as him because thats what pay2win is right?

its not winning its just epeen, nothing more, showing off how he has so much isk to be able to do pointless things


He is not undefeatable. No one is.

You should try PVP more before making such stupid statements.

you are, by far, the best person at recognizing sarcasm in the entire universe
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#169 - 2016-02-14 19:11:52 UTC
Deck Cadelanne wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
PsiMin wrote:
Lathael wrote:
This destroys a lot for me. Ouch.

Can someone do the math for me and tell me how much that costs?

Thx in advance *sigh*



CCP has destroyed this game as its now P2W


yawn so ironbank is officiallly the strongest and most elite character in the game, undefeatable because he paid to win and nobody is as high ranked as him because thats what pay2win is right?

its not winning its just epeen, nothing more, showing off how he has so much isk to be able to do pointless things


He is not undefeatable. No one is.

You should try PVP more before making such stupid statements.
Insert lookhowthatwentrightoveryourhead.gif here.

Mr Epeen Cool
Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
#170 - 2016-02-14 19:12:28 UTC
EvilweaselFinance wrote:

you are, by far, the best person at recognizing sarcasm in the entire universe


No, I am not. Hence the apology and retraction.

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."

- Hunter S. Thompson
Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
#171 - 2016-02-14 19:15:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Jill Xelitras
Deck Cadelanne wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
PsiMin wrote:


CCP has destroyed this game as its now P2W


yawn so ironbank is officiallly the strongest and most elite character in the game, undefeatable because he paid to win and nobody is as high ranked as him because thats what pay2win is right?

its not winning its just epeen, nothing more, showing off how he has so much isk to be able to do pointless things


He is not undefeatable. No one is.

EDIT:

My reaction was too harsh to the comment I was replying to. So I apologize and retract it.

There is no reason to get upset, or even care, about Ironbank's stunt. Literally.


You sir need to get your sarcasm detector realigned ... because it's way off.

EDIT: I could have sworn the edit wasn't there when I hit quote. Funny.

Don't anger the forum gods.

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> I Saw, I came, I Frowned, I locked, I posted, and I left.
Avvy
Doomheim
#172 - 2016-02-14 19:25:08 UTC
Jill Xelitras wrote:
Deck Cadelanne wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
PsiMin wrote:


CCP has destroyed this game as its now P2W


yawn so ironbank is officiallly the strongest and most elite character in the game, undefeatable because he paid to win and nobody is as high ranked as him because thats what pay2win is right?

its not winning its just epeen, nothing more, showing off how he has so much isk to be able to do pointless things


He is not undefeatable. No one is.

EDIT:

My reaction was too harsh to the comment I was replying to. So I apologize and retract it.

There is no reason to get upset, or even care, about Ironbank's stunt. Literally.


You sir need to get your sarcasm detector realigned ... because it's way off.

EDIT: I could have sworn the edit wasn't there when I hit quote. Funny.



The edit happened after post #170, so it probably wasn't.
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#173 - 2016-02-14 19:27:44 UTC
Quote:
Greed has poisoned men's souls


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dGPo9XBIPA

Regards, a Freelancer

Eve online is :

A) mining simulator B) glorified chatroom C) spreadsheets online

D) CCP Games Pay to Win at skill leveling, with instant gratification

http://eve-radio.com//images/photos/3419/223/34afa0d7998f0a9a86f737d6.jpg

http://bit.ly/1egr4mF
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#174 - 2016-02-14 19:41:24 UTC
Deck Cadelanne wrote:
You should try PVP more before making such stupid statements.


whats pvp and where do i buy it? Lol

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Anke Eyrou
Hades Sisters
#175 - 2016-02-14 19:58:19 UTC
Dawny Star wrote:
Eli Stan wrote:
Edwin Rothbard wrote:
Pandora Bokks wrote:
[quote=Dr Caymus]I feel a bit sorry for you, but to be honest - paying a subscription for 13 years in a row is nothing I would call an achievement. If it is that important for you, you an get back to top position in a couple of hours.

Therein lies the problem: CCP has now created a system where the only way to stay competitive on SP is to pay RL cash for SP on top of your monthly subscription fee. This is the very definition of p2win. What's worse is that most p2win games are 'free' from a monthly subscription fee but with all the microtransactions. CCP has done one better by requiring both the month subscription fee AND the microtransactions. Not to mention CCP's idea of "micro" is really more "macro."

This looks great on a spreadsheet from an account's point of view, but for the health and longevity of the game it's bad.


Isn't it the people who purchased Extractors to create Injectors that are the ones who paid RL cash? Seems IronBank simply used ISK he already had, ISK that wasn't gained by spending RL cash...? I've purchased a few Injectors, for example, with extra ISK I had laying around. Didn't spend a RL dime more than my sub cost for them.




Not quite

Extractors are only seeded via someone buying them with AUR, and AUR can only come from one of 3 places

Plex to AUR conversion - Someone bought a PLEX, PLEX can only be generated by RL Cash
RL Cash to AUR purchase.
Historically gifted AUR from CCP - There's no damn way they gave enough away for this weeks events :p

So people have absolutely been generating CCP income with this.


Agreed but you now don't need to buy AUR you can use real life cash direct with CCP.
https://secure.eveonline.com/SkillExtractors/

I expect to get this post deleted or locked. So much for freedom of expression.

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#176 - 2016-02-14 19:59:32 UTC
so. this guy spent a fortune on skill packs and has a maxed char.
what now? Tomorrow noone will remember.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#177 - 2016-02-14 20:10:30 UTC
The 1.8T it cost to accomplish this effectively meaningless gesture has been distributed much more widely. This is a good thing.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Reiisha
#178 - 2016-02-14 20:12:30 UTC
Bellanea Rajanir wrote:
Eh people.

You are arguing game changed here. What if I have Skills to fly perfectly with Merlin? Does it make me worse than him in flying merlin? This amount of skillpoints isnt synonymous with anything what one could consider having fun. Its only a boasting that you have more ISK or SP than someone else, purely for recognition purposes.

Ask someone who extracted SP because he did not needed them so much, how he is doing. Not the guy who injected everything there is to ISK sink and SP sink.

I would like to see if he can do that again, just with his alt, and alts alt, so he can "win" even more. Lol

Things just are different, but not bad, just different.


Skills are a core part of EVE's gameplay, as they are the primary way to teach you planning and patience.

This feature just made clear that the people steering the game may not know the core values anymore.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
Thorian Baalnorn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#179 - 2016-02-14 20:22:52 UTC
See scamming does pay. All those players he scams in his " online casino" Draining them of isk and then having his alts win it. he is probably a multi trillionaire by now. Probably didnt even put a dent in his pocket.

Sometimes you are the squirrel and sometimes you are the nut. Today, you are the nut and the squirrel is hungry.
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#180 - 2016-02-14 20:23:23 UTC
The Company broke the accord they made with us Capsuleers in 2011 after the Incarna expansion:

"The investment of money in EVE should not give you an unfair advantage over the investment of time."

source: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/accord-reached-at-ccps-special-summit/

Regards, Freelancer

Eve online is :

A) mining simulator B) glorified chatroom C) spreadsheets online

D) CCP Games Pay to Win at skill leveling, with instant gratification

http://eve-radio.com//images/photos/3419/223/34afa0d7998f0a9a86f737d6.jpg

http://bit.ly/1egr4mF