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No limit has been announced, and the video linked a few pages back shows that they definitely added functionality to use a whole stack with a single click. I don't know if there's a database constraint on how big a stack of injectors can be.

You've just shocked me. Having more than one characters and wont be able to do what you want?

I personally would not want all the SP from all my characters dumped into just one, it would make me less efficient, I would make less ISK and I would only be able to fly one ship at a time, that would make Eve very boring for me.

Firstly, I'd like to apologies for not reading the 80+ pages of content thus far and so I could very well be duplicating or regurgitating someone else's thoughts.

With that, as far as SPT mechanics are concerned. Has CCP considered that by introducing this feature that it may compete with +1 - +5 implants. As the whole purpose of those implants are to speed up SP training. This could make the implants redundant or obsolete, as pilots especially PvP pilots could see this as being risk averse impacting the volume of +1 - +5 implants being traded on the market. Don't confuse the multi-purpose implants where they will always have a place in Eve, well at least for now.

Also I think CCP have tried in the past to reduce or constrain the amount of scams that go one which has been one of the major contributors to tarnishing the games image. This would surely be one of the new scamming opportunity, and as CCP has verbally stated that this feature is targeted at the "new" pilots. This could compound the issue of disgruntled pilots leaving early as they have been scammed.
First scam could be that skill extractor is stated to be a skill injector, as both are going to be available on the market, a new pilot could easily be scammed to thinking its something that it's not. The other scam is the 4 different amount of skill injectors that will exist in the market will mean that pilots will easily be scammed with this as well.
So if CCP is so focused on the new pilot and there ability to fly ships through a purchase SP feature, how will they or have they put safe guards into the game to mitigate scammers from scamming the innocent?
If CCP's true intention is to enable and empower new pilots to ascending SP quickly or quicker than the currently available training mechanism in a safer - less scammed risk, than its fair to say this is not it.
I think the aim should be to reduce the scamming to new pilots will result in a reduction of new pilots leaving in droves, cause like us, new pilots don't or at least shouldn't mind dealing with SP as it is, versus being scammed and/or shot out of the sky's in high sec. - what game mechanics are being focused in that area of the game?
One last consideration, with a further introduction of a feature that is best utilised with real world money would favour players who earn an income. Every statistic that I've seen for the last 15+ years has shown that the largest market of mmo gamers is in the 13+ - 15+ year bracket. And we all know that they don't have an income but have to depend on there parents. Hence why there's a million more "free" to play games as apposed to a monthly subscription games. And please don't try to argue that I should look at WoW or FF with there subscription as we all know that there not even scratching the surface of just how many mmo gamers there are out there in the world. Just look at PS and Xbox to show the real market potential as every child's parent is happy to buy a console and a game to start with and evolve from there - no monthly subscription is required there.

So bring on more programmers CCP I wait with baited breath for more content quicker being rolled out.

The question is: how much of a difference will it really make?

Each injector gives you one week of skill training. (Or actually less. I just about forgot that the 500,000 sp is only for very young toons.) S̶o̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶c̶a̶t̶c̶h̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶r̶e̶q̶u̶i̶r̶e̶ ̶5̶2̶ ̶i̶n̶j̶e̶c̶t̶o̶r̶s̶.̶ ̶ ̶ ̶ ̶T̶o̶ ̶c̶a̶t̶c̶h̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶6̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶r̶e̶q̶u̶i̶r̶e̶ ̶3̶1̶2̶ ̶i̶n̶j̶e̶c̶t̶o̶r̶s̶.̶ ̶

So you get 2.5 months out of your first 10. The next 113 get you 22.6 months. Then the next 100 get you 15 more months.

So 3 years and 4.1 months costs you 223 injectors, getting you to 80 mil SP and so now at this point if you keep going you'll only be getting 150 k Sp per injector.



Unless extractors are really cheap, I think only a very wealthy person would be able to afford to buy enough injectors to make a dent on game balance.

As far as the in game ISK trillionaires out there, most of themare probably long time vets who probably earned their ISK in game. If they earned it in game, then that's not "pay to win". That's "play to win." And "play to win" is fine with me.

My guess was because in the devblog Rise(?) said that the extractor costs are comparable to the bazaar transaction fee ...

... BTW I did a mistake in my calculation above (nobody noticed ), so my guess for the extractor is 70-350 AUR. The value of 1/4 PLEX was for the raw skillpoints (PLEXed farming char) and already today people are trading chars below that threshold.

As a new player into eve and using sites like EVE University Wiki, I have noticed that there are core skills Core skills. Why did you not just reimburse players with these skill points and give all new players 5'S in these? that is 81 - 120 days of remaps?
Or in an ark mission you would get skill injects for certain skills like jerry rigging instead of books.

Why are you penalising Old players if they extract points from their body and re-inject them shouldn't they get the full SP as it is theirs? Yes if it was from someone else it would be understandable that they get a penalised amount.

If you look at it this way. In real life your body accepts skin graphs better if it is from its own body. But if you get a skin graph from another body you have to take medicine etc to allow it to heal faster.

These skill points injectors should also have a time period, for example, a week that you have to use them unless it's sat on the market. this way experienced well funded players can't stock pile it waiting for new releases.

Yes, today there are some people selling their characters on the Bazaar below training cost. But there are a lot of factors that would contribute to that, once the sp is packaged up in nice 500 k chunks, those factors will disappear.

The only factor that would make a person sell their SP below training cost in injectors would be if the AUR cost was disgustingly high and the demand for the product wasn't much above that.

It's not pay to win you scrublord, and the summer of rage was more than just a newseltter about what kind of things they could monetize. It was the ****** Incarna expansion they hyped so much, but it turned out to be just a room that melted your computer, it was 18 months before they could do anything else to improve the game, it was the let's see what they do and not what they say.

The main gripe I had with their greed newsletter back then was that they were toying with the notion of things being created out of thin air. You know like ammunition, ships that would only be sold for AUR, stuff like that. That's why they made the skins work the way they do. and that's why they're not selling the SP directly for AUR.

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